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new dvd/dvd-audio/sacd player with older AV receiver - what's missing?
I recently purchased a Pioneer DV-578A DVD player which can also play
DVD-audio and SACD music disks. So far, I have only connected the Pioneer to the audio(2channel)/video inputs on a conventional TV, to verify that it can play a movie. My next step is to connect the player to my Onkyo receiver, model TX-SV717PRO, probably manufactured 1993 or 1994. (There is a story behind this, I acquired the receiver and some other components from the previous owners of my current house, rather than selecting it myself, but I don't mean to digress!) It is apparent that the Onkyo has a limited set of audio inputs that don't "match up" with all of the audio outputs on the Pioneer, not surprising given its (Onkyo) age. More specifically, the Pioneer has 2 channel analog outputs, 5.1 channel analog outputs (front left, front right, rear left, rear right, center, and subwoofer), and both coaxial and optical digital outputs. But the Onkyo only 2 channel audio inputs, therefore the Pioneer can only be connected to the Onkyo with 2 channel audio. Please explain what is the impact of this limitation on my listening, i.e. what capabilities would I gain by getting a current model receiver which has the extra inputs. Further, the Onkyo has a "Dolby Prologic" surround mode, which is supposed to send different channels to the front left/right, center, and rear left/right speakers (which are all connected). I am a bit confused on how this works, because the connection from any audio source (whether CD, DVD, VCR, tape cassette deck, or phonograph) to the Onkyo can only be 2-channel. Does the Onkyo do some type of "demixing" to create 5 separate Dolby Prologic channels from the 2 stereo channels that it "reads" from its input device? Thanks for any help in improving my understanding. |
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Larry wrote:
I recently purchased a Pioneer DV-578A DVD player which can also play DVD-audio and SACD music disks. So far, I have only connected the Pioneer to the audio(2channel)/video inputs on a conventional TV, to verify that it can play a movie. My next step is to connect the player to my Onkyo receiver, model TX-SV717PRO, probably manufactured 1993 or 1994. (There is a story behind this, I acquired the receiver and some other components from the previous owners of my current house, rather than selecting it myself, but I don't mean to digress!) It is apparent that the Onkyo has a limited set of audio inputs that don't "match up" with all of the audio outputs on the Pioneer, not surprising given its (Onkyo) age. More specifically, the Pioneer has 2 channel analog outputs, 5.1 channel analog outputs (front left, front right, rear left, rear right, center, and subwoofer), and both coaxial and optical digital outputs. But the Onkyo only 2 channel audio inputs, therefore the Pioneer can only be connected to the Onkyo with 2 channel audio. Please explain what is the impact of this limitation on my listening, i.e. what capabilities would I gain by getting a current model receiver which has the extra inputs. Further, the Onkyo has a "Dolby Prologic" surround mode, which is supposed to send different channels to the front left/right, center, and rear left/right speakers (which are all connected). I am a bit confused on how this works, because the connection from any audio source (whether CD, DVD, VCR, tape cassette deck, or phonograph) to the Onkyo can only be 2-channel. Does the Onkyo do some type of "demixing" to create 5 separate Dolby Prologic channels from the 2 stereo channels that it "reads" from its input device? Thanks for any help in improving my understanding. You're limited to Dolby Pro-Logic with this model which means that yes, it decodes (or derives) the center and rear channel information from the existing 2-channel output of the DVD player. Additionally you might have to select this option for the "downmix" in a part of the DVD player menu - my Sony is that way anyway. If you plan to use it much for movies you probably should upgrade. For music alone (2-channel stereo) it's OK. The various Dolby decoding options for music listening might not be too satisfying. ( hall effects, simulated surround, etc). Newer surround models have all-channel stereo options which are better for music. I favor the following brands of surround receivers in this order: 1. Yamaha 2. Denon 3. Onkyo 4. Sony Mark Z. |
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On 20 Apr 2005 20:31:01 -0700, "Larry" wrote:
I recently purchased a Pioneer DV-578A DVD player which can also play DVD-audio and SACD music disks. So far, I have only connected the Pioneer to the audio(2channel)/video inputs on a conventional TV, to verify that it can play a movie. My next step is to connect the player to my Onkyo receiver, model TX-SV717PRO, probably manufactured 1993 or 1994. (There is a story behind this, I acquired the receiver and some other components from the previous owners of my current house, rather than selecting it myself, but I don't mean to digress!) It is apparent that the Onkyo has a limited set of audio inputs that don't "match up" with all of the audio outputs on the Pioneer, not surprising given its (Onkyo) age. More specifically, the Pioneer has 2 channel analog outputs, 5.1 channel analog outputs (front left, front right, rear left, rear right, center, and subwoofer), and both coaxial and optical digital outputs. But the Onkyo only 2 channel audio inputs, therefore the Pioneer can only be connected to the Onkyo with 2 channel audio. Please explain what is the impact of this limitation on my listening, i.e. what capabilities would I gain by getting a current model receiver which has the extra inputs. Further, the Onkyo has a "Dolby Prologic" surround mode, which is supposed to send different channels to the front left/right, center, and rear left/right speakers (which are all connected). I am a bit confused on how this works, because the connection from any audio source (whether CD, DVD, VCR, tape cassette deck, or phonograph) to the Onkyo can only be 2-channel. Does the Onkyo do some type of "demixing" to create 5 separate Dolby Prologic channels from the 2 stereo channels that it "reads" from its input device? In addition to what Mark said, you will need a receiver with a multichannel analog input if you want to listen to DVD-A or SACD music with all available channels and full audio resolution that those disks can put out. So, time to seriously consider a new receiver with that sort of input as well as a digital audio input for DD and DTS DVDs. Gary E -- |Gary A. Edelstein (remove NO SPAM and .invalid to reply) |"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly's Pogo |
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