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DAD: Tina's Mazda needs help..........
Dad,
I could use your expertise. We were having trouble with Tina's Mazda MX6 with the engine just dying out of the blue and then sometimes just starting right back up again. Anyway, in the process of trying to charge the battery (we thought the battery might be low because of bad connections which we though could explain the symptoms) we ran the car out of gas here in the driveway. So I bought four gallons of gas (two 2 gallon cans of gas) to be sure it wasn't at a funny angle where it wasn't getting gas. I replaced ALL spark plugs, checked all fluids and inspected the air filter which seems fine. I don't exactly know where the fuel filter is (to inspect or change) which might solve ALL problems. But the biggest problem NOW is that the car won't start. We will charge it's battery for hours and the starter sounds fine/strong and the battery seems strong too, but no ignitition (we have tried at least six different times). We would take it to a place (like American Car Care in Stanwood) if we could just start the damn engine, which ALWAYS started (sometimes with the help of a jump) before. So I would REALLY appreciate it if you could come over when you have a little spare time and just take a look at it. I would like to change the fuel filter just so I could eleiminate that as a possible cause of the trouble. I can buy one today and perhaps you could help me put it in OR perhaps you will see an entirely different problem I missed. Again, you have much more expertise at this than I do and I feel like I have done everything I know how to do. We would REALLY like to get that car running as the cost of gas is killing us with trips to work (about $15 for every round trip to Best Buy, I KID YOU NOT, it's that damn all-wheel-drive). Anyway, let me know if you could take a look. I feel like this could be a good running car (when it was running, it ran very well) if we could just solve this problem. Thank you, Nick |
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Tina's Mazda needs help..........
"MOSFET" wrote in message
... Dad, I could use your expertise. We were having trouble with Tina's Mazda MX6 with the engine just dying out of the blue and then sometimes just starting right back up again. Anyway, in the process of trying to charge the battery (we thought the battery might be low because of bad connections which we though could explain the symptoms) we ran the car out of gas here in the driveway. So I bought four gallons of gas (two 2 gallon cans of gas) to be sure it wasn't at a funny angle where it wasn't getting gas. I replaced ALL spark plugs, checked all fluids and inspected the air filter which seems fine. I don't exactly know where the fuel filter is (to inspect or change) which might solve ALL problems. But the biggest problem NOW is that the car won't start. We will charge it's battery for hours and the starter sounds fine/strong and the battery seems strong too, but no ignitition (we have tried at least six different times). We would take it to a place (like American Car Care in Stanwood) if we could just start the damn engine, which ALWAYS started (sometimes with the help of a jump) before. So I would REALLY appreciate it if you could come over when you have a little spare time and just take a look at it. I would like to change the fuel filter just so I could eleiminate that as a possible cause of the trouble. I can buy one today and perhaps you could help me put it in OR perhaps you will see an entirely different problem I missed. Again, you have much more expertise at this than I do and I feel like I have done everything I know how to do. We would REALLY like to get that car running as the cost of gas is killing us with trips to work (about $15 for every round trip to Best Buy, I KID YOU NOT, it's that damn all-wheel-drive). Anyway, let me know if you could take a look. I feel like this could be a good running car (when it was running, it ran very well) if we could just solve this problem. Thank you, Nick The most telling thing here is that you ran the car out of gas. That instantly points to fuel (or lack of) as the problem. Are you sure the fuel pump is still running? It may have seized up after being run dry. It (or the fuel filter) may be clogged with rust which normally stays in the bottom of the tank. How about the fuse or fusible link for the fuel pump? Running the pump dry may have blown the fuse. Fuel filter is definitely a possibility. Chris |
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Tina's Mazda needs help..........
Christopher "Torroid" Ott wrote:
"MOSFET" wrote in message ... Dad, I could use your expertise. We were having trouble with Tina's Mazda MX6 with the engine just dying out of the blue and then sometimes just starting right back up again. Anyway, in the process of trying to charge the battery (we thought the battery might be low because of bad connections which we though could explain the symptoms) we ran the car out of gas here in the driveway. So I bought four gallons of gas (two 2 gallon cans of gas) to be sure it wasn't at a funny angle where it wasn't getting gas. I replaced ALL spark plugs, checked all fluids and inspected the air filter which seems fine. I don't exactly know where the fuel filter is (to inspect or change) which might solve ALL problems. But the biggest problem NOW is that the car won't start. We will charge it's battery for hours and the starter sounds fine/strong and the battery seems strong too, but no ignitition (we have tried at least six different times). We would take it to a place (like American Car Care in Stanwood) if we could just start the damn engine, which ALWAYS started (sometimes with the help of a jump) before. So I would REALLY appreciate it if you could come over when you have a little spare time and just take a look at it. I would like to change the fuel filter just so I could eleiminate that as a possible cause of the trouble. I can buy one today and perhaps you could help me put it in OR perhaps you will see an entirely different problem I missed. Again, you have much more expertise at this than I do and I feel like I have done everything I know how to do. We would REALLY like to get that car running as the cost of gas is killing us with trips to work (about $15 for every round trip to Best Buy, I KID YOU NOT, it's that damn all-wheel-drive). Anyway, let me know if you could take a look. I feel like this could be a good running car (when it was running, it ran very well) if we could just solve this problem. Thank you, Nick The most telling thing here is that you ran the car out of gas. That instantly points to fuel (or lack of) as the problem. Are you sure the fuel pump is still running? It may have seized up after being run dry. It (or the fuel filter) may be clogged with rust which normally stays in the bottom of the tank. How about the fuse or fusible link for the fuel pump? Running the pump dry may have blown the fuse. Fuel filter is definitely a possibility. I'm not Dad, but I'd bet on the fuel filter as well - having it clog up after running the tank dry is common to almost every make and model of car ever made. Usually you'll have two filters - a coarse one in the tank where the fuel pickup is, and a fine one under the hood just before the pressure regulator. Either one could be clogged with tank crud. In most cars you should be able to hear the fuel pump spin up - it will usually fire briefly when you first turn the key to the Ignition position, then shut off until the car is actually running. If it doesn't spin up, check the fuse... but my money is on a clogged filter. |
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
Obviously this post was inteaded for my dad, not the group. I'm sorry and
embarrased, as usual (this is AT LEAST the fourth time I've done this over the years). Where's Howdy when you need him to mock me further for my innept computer skills? In fact, it's amusing to me that the screw-up generates posts from the old-timers like Matt and Christopher, but my first post ASKING YOU GUYS TO GIVE ME A SHOUT BACK goes unanswered. Oh, well. Good to know you guys are still around!!! Take care and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Nick |
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DAD: Tina's Mazda needs help..........
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
MOSFET wrote:
Obviously this post was inteaded for my dad, not the group. I'm sorry and embarrased, as usual (this is AT LEAST the fourth time I've done this over the years). I just figured you'd pasted a copy of the email here to solicit other advice... wasn't really sure WHY it would be here rather than rec.autos.makers.mazda or something more appropriate, but what the hey... Where's Howdy when you need him to mock me further for my innept computer skills? Now that you've spoken his name, I'm sure he'll appear. In fact, it's amusing to me that the screw-up generates posts from the old-timers like Matt and Christopher, but my first post ASKING YOU GUYS TO GIVE ME A SHOUT BACK goes unanswered. Oh, well. I don't remember seeing that post. Probably got lost in the sporge. Good to know you guys are still around!!! Take care and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! Backatcha. Any luck with the car? |
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
Backatcha. Any luck with the car?
This was the first message about changes to my car audio system: Anyway, as far as what's new with my system, there's quite a bit (I HAVE NOT LOST THE BUG!!!!). As promised, I finally upgraded to a Class D amp to drive my pair of 12" MTX MXS's (same as 7500 series, just silver instead of black). I bought a new Alpine MRP-M850. Connected in parallel, each sub gets 400 watts which seems to be just PERFECT (more than the previous amp that was driving them, a Soundstream Ref. 700 that I sold). Everything they say about Classs D is true. The increase in bass output is VERY noticeable yet the amp stays cool and my voltage doesn't drop like a stone when I really punch it. Also, I replaced my head unit. The white touch strip on my Alpine 9853 started acting really screwy, like it had a mind of it's own. I took the unit apart and cleaned the inside thoroughly (as I have often done in the past with my Alpine's) but the problem persisted. It was like someone was ALWAYS touching the strip and made operating the thing almost impossible, and certainly annoying as hell. I suppose there's a lesson there. Never be the first person to try a new technology. I noticed none of Alpine's current line-up include the touch-strip. So although I COULD have ordered a new faceplate, I decided I didn't want to just have the problem again in six months so I bought a new '07 model Alpine, the Alpine 9885 which I have been VERY happy with. Although I do not have Bass Engine Pro, I DO have bass and treble controls again (yeh!) and it does have high and low pass x-overs (all my amps have x-overs as well). Also, I use a 7 band Clarion EQ so I really don't miss the features Bass Engine Pro possessed. I have a Sansa 8 gig MP3 player and my next purchase will be the Alpine KCA-620M which is a USB adaptor. It will tie my Sansa into my Alpine so that the Sansa controls can be operated from the Alpine, it will also power the Sansa because it is a USB2 input (and that's how the rechargeable battery gets it's power), and the song titles will display on the Alpine's bio-lite display. I'm looking forward to this because I ALREADY have my Sansa tied into my Alpine the traditional way (with an 1/8" stereo plug from the headphone jack to RCA right and left that goes into my Alpine via an adaptor), and I find I use that (the Sansa MP3 player) more than ANY other source (like burning discs or the radio). Alpine promises that this will interface with ANY non-iPod MP3 player (for an iPod, there are other adaptors you must buy). Anyway, I love the new Alpine, and glad to be rid of that damn touch strip. BTW, on this unit you can change the famous Alpine "crystals" to red, a color I have never seen before (green isn't even an option on this unit, so much for remembering the past). Anyway, besides those changes, everything else is the same (all the speakers for instance) and working perfectly. For a non-updated (it still shows my Soundstream driving my subs for instance) look at my system at: MOSFET |
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
MOSFET wrote:
Backatcha. Any luck with the car? This was the first message about changes to my car audio system: Yeah, I found that and replied to it. I was talking about "Tina's Mazda". |
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
No, no luck with the wife's car. My dad tried sprying starter fluid in the
air intake but no go. The funny thing is that we ran it out of gas to charge the battery and it ideled smoothly for TWO HOURS!!!! Yet we can not start it no matter what we try. Like they always say, you don't want to run a fuel injected car out of gas, but clearly something was damaged when it ran out of gas as it should start eventually. So it's towing time next as I have replaced all filters, spark plugs, and fluid levels. The starter sounds strong yet when I turn the key initially, I don't hear the fuel pump (before I turn it over) like I usually do in other cars. I am begginging to wonder if the fuel pump is shot. I hope not as it's located IN THE FUEL TANK. But the problem is definately beyond my and my father's rudamentary skills. Nick "Matt Ion" wrote in message news:0P0fj.62928$DP1.28827@pd7urf2no... MOSFET wrote: Backatcha. Any luck with the car? This was the first message about changes to my car audio system: Yeah, I found that and replied to it. I was talking about "Tina's Mazda". |
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God I'm so sorry!! I've done this before on OE......
MOSFET wrote:
No, no luck with the wife's car. My dad tried sprying starter fluid in the air intake but no go. The funny thing is that we ran it out of gas to charge the battery and it ideled smoothly for TWO HOURS!!!! Yet we can not start it no matter what we try. Like they always say, you don't want to run a fuel injected car out of gas, but clearly something was damaged when it ran out of gas as it should start eventually. So it's towing time next as I have replaced all filters, spark plugs, and fluid levels. The starter sounds strong yet when I turn the key initially, I don't hear the fuel pump (before I turn it over) like I usually do in other cars. I am begginging to wonder if the fuel pump is shot. I hope not as it's located IN THE FUEL TANK. But the problem is definately beyond my and my father's rudamentary skills. Hrrm, if you're not hearing the fuel pump, it could well be that it's toasted. Of course, it could also be a fuse or relay - Hondas, for example, are (in)famous for their "main relay" failing, especially with temperature extremes. This is the relay that triggers fuel pump operation, and the failure is more often that not simply a solder joint that has been loosened through temperature changes and vibration. I don't know if Mazda has something similar, but it may be worth looking into. As for accessing the fuel pump, it may be varying degrees of difficulty. In the third-gen Accords, at least, there's a little access plate in the trunk/hatch that you can pop out to unbolt and remove the pump/filter/pickup assembly. In Civics of the same age, however, while the pump/filter/pickup is installed in the tank in a similar way, you have to actually lower the tank to access it. |
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