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As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die
to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! -- "We already know the answers -- we just haven't asked the right questions." -- Edwin Land |
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On Wed, 11 May 2011 14:07:59 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! It's all about extending the "suspense". There's also the possibility that the viewers might not have been able to understand why she didn't roll again ;-) John |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message ... As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! Even Jackie Gleason got nervous on The $64,000 Question. I'd probably would have done the same Poly |
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On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. |
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On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote:
On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia |
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"Sylvia Else" wrote in message ... On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Perhaps his dice have a zero on one side :-) Trevor. |
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Trevor wrote:
"Sylvia Else" wrote in message ... On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Perhaps his dice have a zero on one side :-) Trevor. One possibility. Or she might have to match some number from 1 to 6 that someone else pulled out of a hat, or there are many other scenearios that might be in the game. If all she has to do is get the number that comes up on the die, then she has already won after two rolls. |
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On 5/12/2011 2:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia You need to understand the rules of game TV to understand why they did what they did. It was not an option to 'give it to her', she was required to roll. -- I'm never going to grow up. |
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On 12/05/2011 10:29 PM, PeterD wrote:
On 5/12/2011 2:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia You need to understand the rules of game TV to understand why they did what they did. It was not an option to 'give it to her', she was required to roll. Rules? Sylvia. |
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On 5/12/2011 10:52 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12/05/2011 10:29 PM, PeterD wrote: On 5/12/2011 2:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia You need to understand the rules of game TV to understand why they did what they did. It was not an option to 'give it to her', she was required to roll. Rules? Sylvia. Yes, the federal government has rules in place for game shows, in effect since the early 60s, following a number of scandals where contestants were given 'special' treatment. -- I'm never going to grow up. |
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Sylvia Else wrote: On 12/05/2011 10:29 PM, PeterD wrote: On 5/12/2011 2:07 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia You need to understand the rules of game TV to understand why they did what they did. It was not an option to 'give it to her', she was required to roll. Rules? Sylvia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_$64,000_Question -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia Oh! - I get it now. She's rolling to obtain a number on the die between 1 and 6 inclusive. This wasn't made clear in the original statement. I didn't know what she was rolling for. If its just a number on the face of the die, then sure. She has already won the game, so there is no reason to continue.... |
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On May 11, 11:07*pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12/05/2011 4:03 PM, Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. But she's bound to get at least 1 on each subsequent roll, so no matter what happens she wins. Accordingly, as the OP indicated, there's no need to bother. Sylvia Rolling again takes less time than explaining, and less time by the production staff, later on, to deal with the communiques sent by puzzled viewers. |
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Kevin Krell wrote:
On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. No, you are not mathematically challenged. You are absolutely correct. So, there are at least two of us who can read. |
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Bill Graham wrote:
Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. No, you are not mathematically challenged. You are absolutely correct. So, there are at least two of us who can read. I've not seen the show, as I'm on the East of the Atlantic. The fact is that a win is not inevitable with the score given. The di(c)e *could* fall off the table on one or more subsequent rolls, for no score, unless it's a sealed die shaker. I'd agree it's almost vanishingly unlikely.... As pointed out by another poster, the show rules (which may be known only to the contestants and the show crew) might state that rolling must continue until the needed score is reached or exceeded. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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"Bill Graham" wrote in message ... Kevin Krell wrote: On 5/11/2011 2:07 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! OK, guess I'm mathematically challenged, then. Of course she has to roll again, at least once more (and possibly twice if #3 is a one), as the 8 is still less than the 10 you're saying she requires. No, you are not mathematically challenged. You are absolutely correct. So, there are at least two of us who can read. Or perhaps don't realise the lowest number on a Die(ce) is one. So she hasn't actually won yet, but she simply can't lose. Trevor. |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message ... As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! Maybe she believed the more points she would get the bigger the prize ! =D There is a little tale about a woman being greedy ! =D Bye, Skybuck. -- "We already know the answers -- we just haven't asked the right questions." -- Edwin Land |
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"William Sommerwerck" schreef in bericht ... As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! -- "We already know the answers -- we just haven't asked the right questions." -- Edwin Land Depends on the rules you did not mention. She still does not have 10 points even though she sure will have them when she rolls one or two times more. Nevertheless I want to know why the person is a woman. I suppose there's another answer that will make the difference. petrus bitbyter |
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William Sommerwerck wrote:
As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! Of course she rolls the die. She has to, because she needs to get ten, and she only has eight. So, by the rules of the game she has to keep rolling until she gets the ten she needs, or runs out of rolls. Getting a good start is not the same as winning. |
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"Bill Graham" wrote in message ... William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! Of course she rolls the die. She has to, because she needs to get ten, and she only has eight. So, by the rules of the game she has to keep rolling until she gets the ten she needs, or runs out of rolls. Getting a good start is not the same as winning. I think you miss the point, in this case it's "Not possibly being able to lose (unless the dice are fixed!) is not the same as winning". They MUST show her getting 10 so the "arithmetically challenged people" mentioned in the header can understand what's gong on. Besides they probably had more air time to fill! :-) Trevor. |
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Trevor wrote:
"Bill Graham" wrote in message ... William Sommerwerck wrote: As I'm working, "Let's Make a Deal" is on. A woman has four rolls of a die to get 10 points or more. She gets 8 on the first two rolls. So... does she or the host say "No need to roll again?" No! She actually rolls the die! Of course she rolls the die. She has to, because she needs to get ten, and she only has eight. So, by the rules of the game she has to keep rolling until she gets the ten she needs, or runs out of rolls. Getting a good start is not the same as winning. I think you miss the point, in this case it's "Not possibly being able to lose (unless the dice are fixed!) is not the same as winning". They MUST show her getting 10 so the "arithmetically challenged people" mentioned in the header can understand what's gong on. Besides they probably had more air time to fill! :-) Trevor. Well, if they want to compare her score to many others who roll the die four times, then she should be required to roll the die four times. But this depends on the show and its moderators. |
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