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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of somethinglike this?
George M. Middius wrote:
Then she thought and realized that Mercedes probably makes them. Funny thing is, Mercedes doesn't anymore. Lol. Now you're laughing at your sister? A bit. It just shows the perception that diesel isn't even a real consideration in people's minds in the U.S. other than in a truck. |
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dave weil wrote:
Then she thought and realized that Mercedes probably makes them. Funny thing is, Mercedes doesn't anymore. Lol. Actually, as of the 2004 model year, this is incorrect. http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e...e000216140.cfm Wow. NEAT. Good for them. quote: "The 150 kW/204hp (U.S.: 201 hp) direct-injection diesel engine can reach a maximum torque of 500 Nm (369 lb-ft) at 1,800 rpm. It also combines rapid acceleration and a formidable throughput rate with exemplary fuel consumption of only 6.9 litres per 100 kilometers (total NEDC consumption) and achieved in the American test procedure around 35 mpg*. In everyday operation, it is far superior to comparable vehicles with gasoline or hybrid drive systems." Nice. |
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dave weil wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:51:27 -0600, dave weil wrote: Then she thought and realized that Mercedes probably makes them. Funny thing is, Mercedes doesn't anymore. Lol. Actually, as of the 2004 model year, this is incorrect. http://www.imakenews.com/autospies/e...e000216140.cfm There *was* a hiatus of 2000 - 2003 while they developed their new diesel motor. The last diesel that they made was in 1999. And I should note that as far as I know, diesels are available in Europe already. Of course. They sell well over there where people have more common sense about the environment. 45mpg average in the VW version and you wonder about the Prius a bit. |
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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of something like this?
Joseph Oberlander ) wrote in alt.home-theater.misc:
Since the old version was free - locating a copy isn't hard since you can swap and resell the used program with no licencing problems. It's not getting the OS that's the problem...it's keeping up with bug fixes (some of which are security critical). Unless you are proficient with a compliler and makefiles, anything labeled "Red Hat" will become an outdated, buggy system fairly quickly. There is the Fedora Core project to replace "free" Red Hat Linux, but you still won't find it on a store shelf. I have never had any problem downloading 3 ISO files and burning CDs, but for many, this pretty much makes the OPs statement ("You really have to be a systems kind of person to get an alternative OS up and running") fairly true. -- Jeff Rife | copy protection: n. A class of methods for For address harvesters: | preventing incompetent pirates from stealing | software and legitimate customers from using it. | Considered silly. | -- Jargon File version 4.4.6 |
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Obie the Chicken-Chicken said: Now you're laughing at your sister? A bit. It just shows the perception that diesel isn't even a real consideration in people's minds in the U.S. other than in a truck. Your cowardly snippage of the rest of my post shows us exactly why you worship the Krooborg. |
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Joseph Oberlander said: And I should note that as far as I know, diesels are available in Europe already. Of course. They sell well over there where people have more common sense about the environment. Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. |
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Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously
have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Regards, Robert ============================= Bass Home Electronics 2291 Pine View Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34231 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support 941-925-9747 Fax 941-232-0791 Wireless Nextel Private ID - 161*21755*1 http://www.bass-home.com http://www.bassburglaralarms.com ============================= |
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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of something like this?
"Robert L. Bass" said:
Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? To answer your last question: the new diesel technology, the main developments done by VW (TDI) and PSA (HDI), most certainly are environmental friendly, more than gasoline, equal to LPG (liquid propane gas). Particle filters and high pressure inlet systems make for a mileage of about 25 km/ liter (do the math yourself for the obsolete gallons and miles thing *grin*). The first part of your question is a little hard to answer unless you're familiar with the politics in various countries in Europe. Overhere, most governments put high taxes upon fuel. Eg in Holland, a liter gasoline costs 1,20 euro, of which almost 1 euro is taxes. A liter diesel costs 78 eurocents. BUT: we have added taxes for automobiles, to be paid per annum, which is about 400 euro for a midsize (European midsize!) gasoline car, and roughly double that for a comparable diesel model. Therefor, there's a certain mileage one must reach before diesel becomes more economical. In this case, it would be around 30.000 km/year. There's not much connection to environmental issues, because the modern diesel cars use less fuel and put out less C)2 and particles than the comparable gasoline car. Yet, one has to pay more on taxes. -- Sander deWaal Vacuum Audio Consultancy |
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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of something like this?
Robert L. Bass said: Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? I have several ideas; I'm not certain which governs where or when. But I can guarantee that Obie has no clue -- he keeps saying the reason they don't sell is because people don't know they're available. Even if that were a major factor, which I'm sure it's not, he has yet to provide any substantiation other than "everybody is the same as my sister". For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? That's a question for Obie, or better yet, somebody who actually knows what they're talking about. |
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To answer your last question: the new diesel technology, the main
developments done by VW (TDI) and PSA (HDI), most certainly are environmental friendly, more than gasoline, equal to LPG (liquid propane gas). Particle filters and high pressure inlet systems make for a mileage of about 25 km/ liter (do the math yourself for the obsolete gallons and miles thing *grin*). Thanks. That was interesting. I've been kicking around selling one of my vehicles and buying a new (small) car. I hadn't given much thought to diesel. OK, I'll drop this now before the netcops get upset about the thread going OT. :^) Alarm and Home Automation System FAQ: http://www.bass-home.com/faq/masterfaq/faq.htm Regards, Robert ============================= Bass Home Electronics 2291 Pine View Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34231 877-722-8900 Sales & Tech Support 941-925-9747 Fax 941-232-0791 Wireless Nextel Private ID - 161*21755*1 http://www.bass-home.com http://www.bassburglaralarms.com ============================= |
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:23:05 -0500, Robert L. Bass wrote:
Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? supply vs. demand For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? diesel produce a different kind of polution; they contribute more to ground polution (soot) than of air polution (smog) In the cities the latter is more a problem. |
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"Robert L. Bass" wrote in message
Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Fuel costs (which are even more heavily weighted by taxes in Europe than here) have a lot to do with it. Climate has something to do with it, too. Diesels aren't really nice car engines to operate when the temperatures go below 10 degrees F. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert L. Bass" wrote in message Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Fuel costs (which are even more heavily weighted by taxes in Europe than here) have a lot to do with it. Climate has something to do with it, too. Diesels aren't really nice car engines to operate when the temperatures go below 10 degrees F. Cold weather is something you know lots about. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert L. Bass" wrote in message Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Fuel costs (which are even more heavily weighted by taxes in Europe than here) have a lot to do with it. Climate has something to do with it, too. Diesels aren't really nice car engines to operate when the temperatures go below 10 degrees F. Cold weather is something you know lots about. Thanks for admitting that you don't really live in Maryland, Yustabe. It gets cold there, too. Since you claim that you know nothing about cold weather, you obviously live someplace else. |
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Thanks for admitting that you don't really live in Maryland, Yustabe. It
gets cold there, too. Since you claim that you know nothing about cold weather, you obviously live someplace else. Why not just let it slide? There's no percentage in allowing him to get you PO'd. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Robert L. Bass" wrote in message Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Fuel costs (which are even more heavily weighted by taxes in Europe than here) have a lot to do with it. Climate has something to do with it, too. Diesels aren't really nice car engines to operate when the temperatures go below 10 degrees F. Cold weather is something you know lots about. Thanks for admitting that you don't really live in Maryland, Yustabe. It gets cold there, too. Since you claim that you know nothing about cold weather, you obviously live someplace else. Lordy!!! Just tell me where I claimed to know nothing about cold weather. You are on a meltdown today!. So you found out my little secret. I live in a villa, right on the beach, on an island in the Mediterranean ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Robert L. Bass" wrote in message news  Thanks for admitting that you don't really live in Maryland, Yustabe. It gets cold there, too. Since you claim that you know nothing about cold weather, you obviously live someplace else. Why not just let it slide? There's no percentage in allowing him to get you PO'd. I am amused, not PO'd. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said to ****-for-Brains: So you found out my little secret. I live in a villa, right on the beach, on an island in the Mediterranean With a princely income of $78K, you should own the entire island. |
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I am amused, not PO'd.
I was addressing Arny. Nothing against you either, but why taunt? |
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"Robert L. Bass" wrote in message ... I am amused, not PO'd. I was addressing Arny. Nothing against you either, but why taunt? It's like a cat playing with a wounded mouse, errrr, make that rat. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of somethinglike this?
Robert L. Bass wrote:
Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Don't forget to include MPG, the newere low sulfur variety used in Europe, and refining process. IIRC, Diesel is simpler to refine. |
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Robert L. Bass wrote:
To answer your last question: the new diesel technology, the main developments done by VW (TDI) and PSA (HDI), most certainly are environmental friendly, more than gasoline, equal to LPG (liquid propane gas). Particle filters and high pressure inlet systems make for a mileage of about 25 km/ liter (do the math yourself for the obsolete gallons and miles thing *grin*). Thanks. That was interesting. I've been kicking around selling one of my vehicles and buying a new (small) car. I hadn't given much thought to diesel. OK, I'll drop this now before the netcops get upset about the thread going OT. :^) The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Still, Geo Metro/Aveo fuel efficiency in a Jetta - which is three times the car is quite respectable. |
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Joseph Oberlander said:
The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Rumors are VAG is developing a W10 or even W12 diesel........ -- Sander deWaal Vacuum Audio Consultancy |
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Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky.
Hmm. That might explain my ex-mother in law. :^) |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote:
In article , says... Joseph Oberlander said: The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. You can think Ford and GM for that mess. |
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Alex Rodriguez said: Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. What does this have to do with audio? |
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 17:17:56 -0500, Alex Rodriguez
wrote: In article , says... Joseph Oberlander said: The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. Also, poor acceleration from a stop. Kal |
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"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
In article . net, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... Joseph Oberlander said: The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. You can think Ford and GM for that mess. Mercedes too. Their diesels fit all three descriptions above. Agreed. But it is not just that. Diesel fuel turns to jelly below 10 degrees F. Think of how that works out in places like Minneapolis. |
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Kalman Rubinson said:
Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. Also, poor acceleration from a stop. That's all used-to-be. There have been huge developments the last 10 years, and diesels outperform comparable gasoline engines these days while being more efficient, more reliable and longer lasting (500.000 kms without mechanical problems is no exception). Next time any of you visits Europe, get a diesel rental car and be amazed. -- Sander deWaal Vacuum Audio Consultancy |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:57:07 +0100, Sander deWaal
wrote: Kalman Rubinson said: Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. Also, poor acceleration from a stop. That's all used-to-be. There have been huge developments the last 10 years, and diesels outperform comparable gasoline engines these days while being more efficient, more reliable and longer lasting (500.000 kms without mechanical problems is no exception). Next time any of you visits Europe, get a diesel rental car and be amazed. Or just hail a cab. Chances are pretty good that you'll get a diesel, at least from my experience. |
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:17:48 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: What color were the smallest pair of Y-fronts you've had in your lab? The police are coming for you, Arnii. -- td |
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"dave weil" wrote in message
Or just hail a cab. Chances are pretty good that you'll get a diesel, at least from my experience. Or do what I've done - drive one of the new European diesels on the streets and freeways of your home town. |
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Whey do people buy Bose Acousticmass systems instead of something like this?
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message Mercedes too. Their diesels fit all three descriptions above. Agreed. But it is not just that. Diesel fuel turns to jelly below 10 degrees F. Think of how that works out in places like Minneapolis. sounds like its good for female wrestling. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:39:09 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message Or just hail a cab. Chances are pretty good that you'll get a diesel, at least from my experience. Or do what I've done - drive one of the new European diesels on the streets and freeways of your home town. Cool. I hope your cabbie license was properly displayed. |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:39:09 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Or would you like me in a cascading wave of velvet instead? Shut the **** up. -- td |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message In article . net, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... Joseph Oberlander said: The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. You can think Ford and GM for that mess. Mercedes too. Their diesels fit all three descriptions above. Agreed. But it is not just that. Diesel fuel turns to jelly below 10 degrees F. Think of how that works out in places like Minneapolis. That's easily solved by mixing it with kerosene during the winter months. CD |
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"Codifus" wrote in message
news  Arny Krueger wrote: "Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message In article . net, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... Joseph Oberlander said: The VW TDI engine is slick. Too bad it's in the lower-end VW/AUDI models here in the U.S. Too bad VAG (and BMW, and Mercedes) doesn't have the guts to promote diesel engines in the USA. You should see (and hear and drive!) the V6 and V8 diesels! Up to 500 HP and torque up to 650 Nm. And still an efficiency of about 10 km/liter :-) Diesels have a reputation in the US for being loud, dirty and stinky. That is why they don't sell well here. You can think Ford and GM for that mess. Mercedes too. Their diesels fit all three descriptions above. Agreed. But it is not just that. Diesel fuel turns to jelly below 10 degrees F. Think of how that works out in places like Minneapolis. That's easily solved by mixing it with kerosene during the winter months. It may also damage the engine, or substantially decrease power. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Robert L. Bass" wrote in message Bull****. You don't know what you're talking about. You obviously have no idea why diesels sell in one region but not in another. Hmm. Now you've piqued my curiosity. Why does diesel sell more in one region than another? For that matter, is diesel more environmentally friendly than gasoline? Fuel costs (which are even more heavily weighted by taxes in Europe than here) have a lot to do with it. Climate has something to do with it, too. Diesels aren't really nice car engines to operate when the temperatures go below 10 degrees F. I work with several people who drive Volkswagen Passat and Jetta diesels one being a 2004 model. I had no idea it was a diesel until he told me. I carpool with a guy who drives a diesel Passat and it gets great fuel economy and doesn't have the diesel odour of years past. Also here in Canada we know some things about cold weather and at -34* celcius his car still started no problem. Only problem is during a 12 hour shift he has to go start it twice and let it run for 5 minutes. Even that is no problem we just send out one of the smokers. young... |
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