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SACD 5.1 playback issues
Wondering if I could get some advice here.
I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? |
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"John Fox" wrote in message
... Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? You say you set the receiver to "multichannel". It is unclear to me whether by this you mean the default output setting, or the speaker settings. Both have to be set to multichannel; output to default to multichannel; speakers to be set to whatever combination of large, small, center, sub or not sub. If they are all the same and reasonably full range, you can use multichannel direct. I suspect that your problem lies here. However, it is possible that your DVD-A/SACD player is also set to default to two channel output. Again here you generally have to select multichannel speaker setup, as well as default multichannel output. Check out both settings on both pieces of gear and I suspect you will find the answer. |
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John Fox wrote:
Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? For starters, review the operating manuals for your DVD player and receiver. There may be a switch or control on one or both of the units that you haven't set properly. Assuming the Sony player has multi-channel SACD capability, it will so state in the manual, and it will have at least five outputs. - When playing the SACD disc, does your DVD player indicate that it is outputting SACD? I think most of them will display the fact that they are playing an SACD disc, and when they are outputting multi-channel SACD. Jim |
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Wondering if I could get some advice here.
I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? You say you set the receiver to "multichannel". You mean the *player*, not the receiver, right? It is unclear to me whether by this you mean the default output setting That's what I mean. or the speaker settings. Both have to be set to multichannel; output to default to multichannel; speakers to be set to whatever combination of large, small, center, sub or not sub. If they are all the same and reasonably full range, you can use multichannel direct. I suspect that your problem lies here. Hmmm...haven't messed with the speaker settings on the player yet. But, when I play DVDs, I get 5.1 (or 6.1) with no problem, without having even touched the speaker settings right out of the box. Of course, this signal is being sent to my receiver via optical cable, not the analog outputs. But still: If the speaker settings as they are seem to be fine in getting 5.1 digital output, shouldn't it also hold true for SACD multi channel, even though it's a different output? Regardless, I will take a look at the speaker settings when I get home from work tonight. However, it is possible that your DVD-A/SACD player is also set to default to two channel output. Again here you generally have to select multichannel speaker setup, as well as default multichannel output. Check out both settings on both pieces of gear and I suspect you will find the answer. I'm sure that I have the player's output setting set correctly (there's an indicator light on the player's display that says "multi channel" when you set it that way, and the light goes off when you set it to 2ch stereo. I've toggled that light plenty), but I'm going to look at the speaker settings. Thanks for the advice. |
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Jim Cate wrote in message ...
John Fox wrote: Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? For starters, review the operating manuals for your DVD player and receiver. Heh - I think I have them memorized by now, I've been reading them so much trying to figure this thing out. There may be a switch or control on one or both of the units that you haven't set properly. Assuming the Sony player has multi-channel SACD capability, it will so state in the manual, and it will have at least five outputs. It does - I ran the cables from them. When playing the SACD disc, does your DVD player indicate that it is outputting SACD? Yup. I think most of them will display the fact that they are playing an SACD disc, and when they are outputting multi-channel SACD. That too. There's a button on the DVD player's remote that toggles between 2ch SACD and multi channel SACD. When you toggle it to multi channel, a "Multi Channel SACD" indicator light on the front of the player tells you so. So, I've got that covered (I think). |
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(David E. Bath) wrote in message ...
In article , (John Fox) writes: Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? With the Yamaha receiver I have the 6 ch. input is considered an "external processor" input. With mine you have to press the "EXT DECODER" button to use those inputs. Mine has a seperate button labelled "6ch" - it's kept seperate from all of the other input modes. I'm assuming that's why; when you press it, it overrides the unit's on-board decoder, and accepts a discrete signal into each of those 6 inputs. Same idea, it just looks like this receiver automatically switches to "external decode" mode when you hit the 6ch input, instead of having to use another button. |
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"John Fox" wrote in message
... Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? You say you set the receiver to "multichannel". You mean the *player*, not the receiver, right? It is unclear to me whether by this you mean the default output setting That's what I mean. or the speaker settings. Both have to be set to multichannel; output to default to multichannel; speakers to be set to whatever combination of large, small, center, sub or not sub. If they are all the same and reasonably full range, you can use multichannel direct. I suspect that your problem lies here. Hmmm...haven't messed with the speaker settings on the player yet. But, when I play DVDs, I get 5.1 (or 6.1) with no problem, without having even touched the speaker settings right out of the box. Of course, this signal is being sent to my receiver via optical cable, not the analog outputs. But still: If the speaker settings as they are seem to be fine in getting 5.1 digital output, shouldn't it also hold true for SACD multi channel, even though it's a different output? Regardless, I will take a look at the speaker settings when I get home from work tonight. However, it is possible that your DVD-A/SACD player is also set to default to two channel output. Again here you generally have to select multichannel speaker setup, as well as default multichannel output. Check out both settings on both pieces of gear and I suspect you will find the answer. I'm sure that I have the player's output setting set correctly (there's an indicator light on the player's display that says "multi channel" when you set it that way, and the light goes off when you set it to 2ch stereo. I've toggled that light plenty), but I'm going to look at the speaker settings. Thanks for the advice. If your player is indicating 5.1 channel output and SACD, and your receiver can pass an analog input, then something is wrong. But those are big "IF's". At this point I'd find a simple amplifying/speaker device (simple stereo, boombox with aux inputs, etc.) and test the output of the player when playing SACD multichannel. To make sure you are getting output on all five channels. Then I would use a simple input (old fm tuner, perhaps) and wire it into each of the six analog inputs and test throughput when the six channel button is pushed on the receiver. If you equipment passes both tests, then you have a settings problem pure and simple, somewhere in the receiver. If on the other hand you are not getting output from the player, you have a settings problem in the player (or a hardware failure in the player). |
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John Fox,
Don't know if you saw my reply in alt.home-theater, but I just thought of another thing you could try. The Sony unit has a built-in test tone generator in the setup menu. When you run the tone, do all 5 speakers & the subwoofer give sound? This will check the 6 channel analog connection on your receiver, to make sure each input is actually being delivered to the speakers. Jeremy Gillow "John Fox" wrote in message ... Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? |
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If your player is indicating 5.1 channel output and SACD, and your receiver
can pass an analog input, then something is wrong. But those are big "IF's". At this point I'd find a simple amplifying/speaker device (simple stereo, boombox with aux inputs, etc.) and test the output of the player when playing SACD multichannel. To make sure you are getting output on all five channels. Then I would use a simple input (old fm tuner, perhaps) and wire it into each of the six analog inputs and test throughput when the six channel button is pushed on the receiver. If you equipment passes both tests, then you have a settings problem pure and simple, somewhere in the receiver. If on the other hand you are not getting output from the player, you have a settings problem in the player (or a hardware failure in the player). You were right - it was the speaker settings on the player. The center and rear channels were set to "None" in the menu. Obviously, that didn't matter for movies because the receiver was doing the decoding for those, whereas the player must decode for SACD surround. Thanks for your help! |
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"John Fox" wrote in message
... (Farrell22) wrote in message ... From: (John Fox) Wondering if I could get some advice here. I just recently bought a Sony DVP-NS775V DVD player. It has SACD playback capability. My problem is that I can't seem to get it to play SACD back in multi channel (5.1) format. I have it connected to a Yamaha RX-V800 receiver. Sterio SACD playback is fine. I went out and got some run-of-the-mill RCA cables (el cheapos from Best Buy) and ran them from the 5.1ch Out on the player to the 6ch In on the receiver (the receiver doesn't have a 5.1 Analog In - just a 6ch). I set the player to "multi channel". But on playback, it seems that I'm still only getting sound out of the two main speakers. The discs I am trying to play are advertised as multi channel, 5.1 SACDs. So, I'm at a loss. Anyone have any ideas as to how I can troubleshoot this? I had to change the default setting on my Sony CE-595 SACD player so it played stereo instead of multichannel every time I put in a disc. Maybe yours is doing the reverse, and you have to actually go in and somehow specify MC playback? I specified mutilchannel playback. There's actually a button on the remote for this player to toggle between 2ch stereo and multi channel playback for SACDs, in lieu of having to go into the on screen menu and change settings. There's also a "mutli channel" indicator light on the front of the player, to let you know that the player is sending a 5.1 signal when it's lit (which it is, unless I toggle it off to 2ch stereo). So, it seems like I have all of my settings right, as I've gone over them a few times trying to figure out what's wrong. The light that says MC just means that the player is configured for multi-channel playback. It doesn't mean that signals must come out of the surround channels. That's up to the SACD, which may have only 2 active channels, regardless. Before you get excited, try the disc out on someone else's surround player. Norm Strong |
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