play-on wrote:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:53:04 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote:



Clyde Slick wrote:


But, gosh darn it, it's the truth. Refuse to pay your taxes this year.
Watch the IRS take your home by force. We are what we fought to
gain independance from.



We didn't fight to become independent of government.
The revolutionary effort itself was financed by the break away
colonies taxing its inhabitants.

And yet we are taxed HOW MUCH MORE than back then, even
adjusted for income/inflation?


We have a hell of a lot more than we did back then too. Are you
planning to pave your own roads, maintain your local civic
infrastructure, deliver your own mail, be your own fire and police
deptartment, and fight your very own "war on terror"?

The last three, certainly.

George Gleason wrote:

GeoSynch wrote:

George Gleason wrote:


We simple want to pay for what we do not dump the burden on our children
my unborn grandchildren will be doing without to pay down GW's
spending spree



Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist Democrats.


GeoSynch

The repubs have been in the white house for the majority of the last 50
years why has nothing been done
even Reagan didn't touch it

I love to bring this up. In fact, Carter and Clinton did more to
try to help the working person than most of them, but they were
all but pacifists, so they aren't your typical "politician".

Excluding Clinton and Carter, you get exactly how many Democrats
in the last 50 years?

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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We have a hell of a lot more than we did back then too. Are you
planning to pave your own roads, maintain your local civic
infrastructure, deliver your own mail, be your own fire and police
deptartment, and fight your very own "war on terror"?

The last three, certainly.


You are planning to deliver your own mail, be your own police and fire
fighting
departments and fight the war on terror all by yourself ????
I guess that means you won't have any time to be posting
here any more. When will this commence?

Clyde Slick wrote:

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
ink.net...



We have a hell of a lot more than we did back then too. Are you
planning to pave your own roads, maintain your local civic
infrastructure, deliver your own mail, be your own fire and police
deptartment, and fight your very own "war on terror"?

The last three, certainly.



You are planning to deliver your own mail, be your own police and fire
fighting
departments and fight the war on terror all by yourself ????
I guess that means you won't have any time to be posting
here any more. When will this commence?

Actually, four. Thanks for reminding me.

- I pay all of my bills in person or via online banking. 99% of my
current mail is junk/spam anyways. I get all of my important mail
online.
- Fire - no problem. I can live without it, since 90% of all fire
are electrical-related and I make sure that mine work perfectly.
The others - if you don't have sprinkler systems in your house,
you are way behind the times. I do.
- Police? Their job is always to clean up after the fact. The
truth is only YOU can protect your family and self. Read the
laws - the police are charged with protecting the *public*,
not individuals. 1-2 hours response time for a 911 call is
the norm here.
- War on Terror? The chances of me ever having to deal with it
in Los Angeles are zero. Nobody takes this city seriously,
so it's the least likely target in the U.S.(one advantage of
living here). Plus, it has the largest foriegn population
in the U.S., so again, attack here and you just **** off your
own people.

"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

Why is theft OK if the government does the stealing?

To whit, there is an interesting correspondence between the patterns of
net federal tax outflows and inflows and our recent election results
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html


All the more reason to stop the theft.

"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message

If those lovely leftists were so concerned with trying to help people, why
did they set the age for collection of benefits at the age when most
people
were dead?

I can't believe you're defending Republicans, the same lot who changed their
rules so that even if a person is indicted for a crime, he can still be the
leader of the House.

What a joke. This time, Ethics has truly left the building.

OT, it's my birthday today.

Michael McKelvy wrote:

Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist Democrats.

Excuse the Democrats for actually trying to help people while the
Republicans are super busy covering their own hides.


Those *******s! They actually think that you ought to be responsible for
your own fate. I don't know of a retirement that returns a worse return
than SSI.

My 401(k) with its former tech and Enron investments?

"George Gleason" wrote in message
...
GeoSynch wrote:
George Gleason wrote:


We simple want to pay for what we do not dump the burden on our children
my unborn grandchildren will be doing without to pay down GW's spending
spree


Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist Democrats.


GeoSynch
The repubs have been in the white house for the majority of the last 50
years why has nothing been done
even Reagan didn't touch it

Explain what it is you think Presidents can do about such things.

"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social
Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist Democrats.

Excuse the Democrats for actually trying to help people while the
Republicans are super busy covering their own hides.


Those *******s! They actually think that you ought to be responsible for
your own fate. I don't know of a retirement that returns a worse return
than SSI.

My 401(k) with its former tech and Enron investments?


My condolences, but I'm assuming you followed the golden rule of investing,
DIVERSIFY!

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...

Michael McKelvy wrote:

Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social
Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist Democrats.

Excuse the Democrats for actually trying to help people while the
Republicans are super busy covering their own hides.


Those *******s! They actually think that you ought to be responsible for
your own fate. I don't know of a retirement that returns a worse return
than SSI.

My 401(k) with its former tech and Enron investments?



My condolences, but I'm assuming you followed the golden rule of investing,
DIVERSIFY!


Me? Yes.

The fund managers? Not enough.

"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...

Michael McKelvy wrote:

Then justify that bloated Democratic sacred cow known as Social
Security,
the greatest Ponzi scheme ever concocted by those socialist
Democrats.

Excuse the Democrats for actually trying to help people while the
Republicans are super busy covering their own hides.


Those *******s! They actually think that you ought to be responsible
for your own fate. I don't know of a retirement that returns a worse
return than SSI.

My 401(k) with its former tech and Enron investments?



My condolences, but I'm assuming you followed the golden rule of
investing, DIVERSIFY!


Me? Yes.

The fund managers? Not enough.


Not been a good 2 years for our investments either. Gotta go for the along
haul.

I've listened to a few of Jim Cramer's Real Money radio shows, and he seems
to have a decent record. Might have to check out www.thestreet.com .

Ty Ford wrote:

You're crossposting this crap to five different newsgroups. Pick one (or
none).

Better yet . Get a room take care of your business privately.


Ty Ford


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