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I have just bought 4 shotgun mics
two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Thanks George |
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On Oct 6, 9:48 am, "George's Pro Sound Company"
wrote: I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yeah. Shotguns aren't as "shot" as you want them to be, but often more "shot" than an audience member expects. Either you'll need someone to aim the mic to each talker or you'll need to get the talkers withing range. Experiment first, learn the limitations and "safe" pickup area of the mics, and make sure that they're always pointing in the right direction. Generally for this application, short shotguns aren't any more effective than plain old cardioids. They may reduce some of the background noise, but they aren't likely to give you any more gain before feedback without some human intervention. No magic bullets here. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 9:48 am, "George's Pro Sound Company" wrote: I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yeah. Shotguns aren't as "shot" as you want them to be, but often more "shot" than an audience member expects. Either you'll need someone to aim the mic to each talker or you'll need to get the talkers withing range. Experiment first, learn the limitations and "safe" pickup area of the mics, and make sure that they're always pointing in the right direction. Generally for this application, short shotguns aren't any more effective than plain old cardioids. They may reduce some of the background noise, but they aren't likely to give you any more gain before feedback without some human intervention. No magic bullets here. That's why I bought two long ones and two short ones the first few times out I will still deploy my 16 audience mics, but they pick up so much air handeler and paper shuffing, coughs, people blowing thier noses plus the added hour on set up and hour on strike I am hopeing to find some combination that gets what I need, without deplying a mic to each table in the audience, maybe I should go PXM feeding a wireless transmitter I got 6 of the crown pcc 160's but I am getting a fair wage(550/dayraw recordings only,no post) so I want the product to be the best it can be George |
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"George's Pro Sound Company" wrote in message
... | | "Mike Rivers" wrote in message | ... | On Oct 6, 9:48 am, "George's Pro Sound Company" | wrote: | | I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in | hotel confrences | are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best | performance for this applications | | Yeah. Shotguns aren't as "shot" as you want them to be, but often more | "shot" than an audience member expects. Either you'll need someone to | aim the mic to each talker or you'll need to get the talkers withing | range. Experiment first, learn the limitations and "safe" pickup area | of the mics, and make sure that they're always pointing in the right | direction. | | Generally for this application, short shotguns aren't any more | effective than plain old cardioids. They may reduce some of the | background noise, but they aren't likely to give you any more gain | before feedback without some human intervention. No magic bullets | here. | | That's why I bought two long ones and two short ones | the first few times out I will still deploy my 16 audience mics, but they | pick up so much air handeler and paper shuffing, coughs, people blowing | thier noses | plus the added hour on set up and hour on strike | I am hopeing to find some combination that gets what I need, without | deplying a mic to each table in the audience, maybe I should go PXM feeding | a wireless transmitter | I got 6 of the crown pcc 160's | but I am getting a fair wage(550/dayraw recordings only,no post) so I want | the product to be the best it can be | George I prefer hyper-cardioids for this purpose. They are almost as directional as shotguns. And, they are typically more directional at lower mid-range frequencies than shotguns, which means that room reflections don't tubby up the sound so much. All that said, for your purposes the shotguns will work fine if they are pointed in the right direction and placed close enough to the speaker. Many people mistakenly believe that a shotgun can be many feet from the speaker. It ain't so;-) Steve King |
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George's Pro Sound Company wrote:
I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. They don't work for that. Shotguns don't do what you think they do. Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. They don't work for that. Shotguns don't do what you think they do. Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue I had been placeing a AT 4051 on each table but the ambient room leaking into the recording was unacceptable IMO I do not feed the reinforcment system, this is recording ONLY george --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Oct 6, 11:02 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. They don't work for that. Shotguns don't do what you think they do. Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." What do they do then? That's kind of what I assumed they might be good for but I've never had my hands on one to listen to. |
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On Oct 7, 10:07 am, apa wrote:
What do they do then? That's kind of what I assumed they might be good for but I've never had my hands on one to listen to. They can suppress some background noise, which is not the same as acoustic ambiance. If you're interviewing someone on the street at normal face-to-face distance, it will reduce traffic noise. If you're shooting a film and you have to keep the mic far enough away so that it's out of camera range, it will reduce the pickup of noise on the set (camera noise, for example). But if the mic is ten feet away from your source, your recording will still sound like you're ten feet away from the source. |
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"George's Pro Sound Company" wrote I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue This technique (shotgun miking) is commonly used in small scale EFP and should work fine for your situation. Much of the ambiance will be eliminated if you use a foam windscreen. Highly directional handheld microphones have the disadvantage that small rotational hand movements can cause annoying up and down volumes. A good fishpole operator can place a microphone on a subject much faster too. |
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George's Pro Sound Company wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. They don't work for that. Shotguns don't do what you think they do. Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue Yes, but ambience IS the issue. You do not want everything sounding hollow. I had been placeing a AT 4051 on each table but the ambient room leaking into the recording was unacceptable IMO The shotgun will be no better, and it will definitely be worse than the 4051 with the 4053 capsule put on it. I do not feed the reinforcment system, this is recording ONLY Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. They don't work for that. Shotguns don't do what you think they do. Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue Yes, but ambience IS the issue. You do not want everything sounding hollow. I had been placeing a AT 4051 on each table but the ambient room leaking into the recording was unacceptable IMO The shotgun will be no better, and it will definitely be worse than the 4051 with the 4053 capsule put on it. I do not feed the reinforcment system, this is recording ONLY Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott then look for my ebay listings shortly :-) george |
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On Oct 7, 5:14*pm, "George's Pro Sound Company"
wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. *They don't work for that. *Shotguns don't do what you think they do. *Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue Yes, but ambience IS the issue. *You do not want everything sounding hollow. I had been placeing a AT 4051 on each table but the ambient room leaking into the recording was unacceptable IMO The shotgun will be no better, and it will definitely be worse than the 4051 with the 4053 capsule put on it. I do not feed the reinforcment system, this is recording ONLY Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. *The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. *For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott then look for my ebay listings shortly :-) george- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey George, I'm a bit of a noob here when it comes to audio...trying to read and learn here... I do many corporate conferences and I sometimes record the presenters along with Q&A . I run post on my mic's and only pot up my mics when a question is getting ready to be asked. So instead of having my mics potted up all the time and recording ambient noise, etc., I get only "noise" from the mics that I pot up. I would maybe split the board and have 2 operators run the mics (I read you somtimes have up to 16 mic's) |
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Hey George, I'm a bit of a noob here when it comes to audio...trying to read and learn here... I do many corporate conferences and I sometimes record the presenters along with Q&A . I run post on my mic's and only pot up my mics when a question is getting ready to be asked. So instead of having my mics potted up all the time and recording ambient noise, etc., I get only "noise" from the mics that I pot up. I would maybe split the board and have 2 operators run the mics (I read you somtimes have up to 16 mic's) I am doing this under contract for another who has asked i keep all the mics open all the time , the audio quality was to diffrent between open and muted,I do not do the post production, I record to a marantz 671 flash recorder thru either a yamaha 01v/96 or behringer ddx3216 I also can not "anticiptate" when a question will be asked so I just try to get everything the digital desks give me a good assortment of tools with comps and parametrics on every channel I tried gateing but it was not good enough and sounded choppy I tap the PA system feed from the hotel AV for the panel but the audience was getting a mic for each 6 people I am trying to cut down on the set up/tear down/ and ambient noise I go in with my standard set up friday, plus I will deploy my new shotguns I ahve up32 ch in both my digital mixers I monitor on sennheiser 580 cans and will mix cardiods and shotguns as my ears dictate george |
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On Oct 7, 5:54*pm, Moonrocket wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:14*pm, "George's Pro Sound Company" wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... George's Pro Sound Company wrote: I have just bought 4 shotgun mics two AT 8015's and two rode ntg2's I will be useing either a pair or all 4 to capyure audience questions in hotel confrences are there any "gottcha's" I ought know about or tricks to get the best performance for this applications Yes. *They don't work for that. *Shotguns don't do what you think they do. *Sit down with the mike and a pair of headphones and give it a listen. You'll find if room ambience is the problem (which it is in your situation), that you will usually be better off with a conventional hypercardoid. Use your ears and listen I think I did not post properly I will not be sending this to reinforcement the pick up of audience questions is only going to the recording, feedback will not be a issue Yes, but ambience IS the issue. *You do not want everything sounding hollow. I had been placeing a AT 4051 on each table but the ambient room leaking into the recording was unacceptable IMO The shotgun will be no better, and it will definitely be worse than the 4051 with the 4053 capsule put on it. I do not feed the reinforcment system, this is recording ONLY Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. *The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. *For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott then look for my ebay listings shortly :-) george- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey George, I'm a bit of a noob here when it comes to audio...trying to read and learn here... *I do many corporate conferences and I sometimes record the presenters along with Q&A . *I run post on my mic's and only pot up my mics when a question is getting ready to be asked. *So instead of having my mics potted up all the time and recording ambient noise, etc., I get only "noise" from the mics that I pot up. *I would maybe split the board and have 2 operators run the mics (I read you somtimes have up to 16 mic's)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - and sorry,for clarification, I only pot up the mics that are only going to be used right then and there... |
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"Roy W. Rising" wrote ...
(Scott Dorsey) wrote: Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott One way to look at is ... "Our *most-directional* mics are very much like fish-eye lenses". The EV Model 643 was used for many years to pickup questions from reporters at Presidential news conferences. The 643 is about seven feet long and weighs about 12 pounds. They worked well for the purpose, but required operators on someone's payroll. Here's mo http://www.coutant.org/ev643/index.html Those photos all seem "naked". Didn't they have some sort of windscreen (something like the zepplins used today)? I have vague recollections of seing them in presidential press conferences where there was one on either side of the press corps. They looked bigger (larger in diameter) as I recall. I thought it was because of the windscreen. |
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wrote in message . .. On 2008-10-07 said: Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. then look for my ebay listings shortly :-) I find scott's right on the money. I tried them for recording conferences years ago, as I commented in an earlier post, and found that teaming each shotgun with a boom op was the only effective method. THis brings up another question. Have you checked out those automatic mixers such as the sHures or the DAn DUgan product? I've been reading good things about the Dugan product recently. THis might be an effective use of such a thing. Regards, way out of the buget for a contract worth about 4k a year george |
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On 08 Oct 2008 00:37:01 GMT, Roy W. Rising
wrote: (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. One way to look at is ... "Our *most-directional* mics are very much like fish-eye lenses". I hope that my stripping away of the rest of your post doesn't change the import of the remaining sentence. It's very powerful, and I'm trying to assimilate it. Our eyes are actually fish-eye lenses, and all of our visual world is a computed reconstruction of an imagined geometry, with color added in a separate processing engine. But probably this human-perceptual stuff isn't what you're meaning. A cardiod mic *does* have an included (call it maybe -6dB or something like that) angle of a difficult-to-make-and-expensive- if-glass-and-not-a-pinhole extremely wide angle camera lens. But: Our *perception* makes our vision seem to have telescopic powers, and maybe our perception is also all that gives us our telescopic hearing ability - the same conundrum that makes recordings sound different from "being there". (Still a great movie, BTW, and on topic, yikes! Hal Ashby was way ahead of our time too.) Very cool beans; much thanks, as always, and God bless America for a good Presidential debate, Chris Hornbeck |
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:20:41 -0500, Chris Hornbeck
wrote: A cardiod mic *does* have an included (call it maybe -6dB or something like that) angle of a difficult-to-make-and-expensive- if-glass-and-not-a-pinhole extremely wide angle camera lens. Re-thinking this, (when I should be asleep), a pinhole camera is a much better model/comparison to a microphone. "Acoustic lenses" sorta exist, but the definition requires a large latitude of language and belief (and high losses). The pinhole camera analogy is as full of holes as any other visual/auditory analogy, but has the virtue of being a surface *directly* exposed to excitation. (And our eyes are very good analogies to the pinhole camera, optically). Our hearing is not a "pinhole microphone" but plugging one ear with a finger and pretending that the other ear is one *works* when trying to hear like a microphone - so our hearing is sorta-kinda a pinhole (in each ear) -ish. Film is fundamentally "omni", and film cannot be "exposed in an opposite polarity on the reverse side", so no analogies to conventional microphone structures can exist. But maybe the worth of the analogy is simply that - that like our hearing, all microphones are really very much "omni" with only a slight gloss or vernier of directionality. The comparison to a real (! large WRT wavelength and low-loss) lens would be very difficult in acoustic terms. Insane babbling, as usual, CH |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:01:08 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
wrote: Film is fundamentally "omni", and film cannot be "exposed in an opposite polarity on the reverse side", so no analogies to conventional microphone structures can exist. Separate films summed later. Color film of all kinds. My argument is full of holes. Sorry, Nite, Chris |
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On 2008-10-07 said: ... On 2008-10-07 said: THis brings up another question. Have you checked out those automatic mixers such as the sHures or the DAn DUgan product? I've been reading good things about the Dugan product recently. THis might be an effective use of such a thing. way out of the budget for a contract worth about 4k a year Hmmm DIdn't know what kind of price tag was on those guys, as I said, have only read about them in the film sound group recently. IF it were me I'd tell the client that for best results I need to mute unused channels until they're used and just figure for a busy day with hands on the console g. That or a couple of boom operators. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin, NOvember 1755 from the Historical review of Pennsylvania |
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:06:44 -0400, George's Pro Sound Company wrote
(in article ): I tried gateing but it was not good enough and sounded choppy A shure FP410 adjusted properly doesn't sound choppy. Put the dip switches in "Last mic remains open" or only moderate turn down and it's noisier, but smoother, but definitely better than all up. Regards, Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA |
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:55:07 -0400, Moonrocket wrote
(in article ): and sorry,for clarification, I only pot up the mics that are only going to be used right then and there... That should work. I usually leave em all at 25% +/- in case someone speaks up without notice. I still get a bit of them as I fade up. Regards, Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Roy W. Rising" wrote ... (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. The Focal book on microphones does a good job of explaining it, but ten minutes with a pair of headphones and you'll figure it out. For the most part, shotguns will help with external noise outside but they just make room ambience problems worse indoors. --scott One way to look at is ... "Our *most-directional* mics are very much like fish-eye lenses". The EV Model 643 was used for many years to pickup questions from reporters at Presidential news conferences. The 643 is about seven feet long and weighs about 12 pounds. They worked well for the purpose, but required operators on someone's payroll. Here's mo http://www.coutant.org/ev643/index.html Those photos all seem "naked". Didn't they have some sort of windscreen (something like the zepplins used today)? I have vague recollections of seing them in presidential press conferences where there was one on either side of the press corps. They looked bigger (larger in diameter) as I recall. I thought it was because of the windscreen. Indeed, the 643 was equipped with a foam windscreen setup. It's diameter matched the "rings" at the ends of the waveguide(s). It is shown in Fig. 1 and in the photo on the data sheet. The element at the rear was surrounded by two conical foam screens. -- ~ ~ Roy "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!" |
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Chris Hornbeck wrote:
On 08 Oct 2008 00:37:01 GMT, Roy W. Rising wrote: (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Once again, the shotgun mike does not do what you think it does. One way to look at is ... "Our *most-directional* mics are very much like fish-eye lenses". I hope that my stripping away of the rest of your post doesn't change the import of the remaining sentence. It's very powerful, and I'm trying to assimilate it. [snip] Chris Hornbeck Not at all. The wavelengths of sound lead to great difficulty making a mic directional at lower frequencies. A 100 Hz wave is about 11 feet long. The seven foot long EV 643 is, at best, only cardioid at 100 Hz. -- ~ ~ Roy "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!" |
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I find scott's right on the money. I tried them for recording conferences years ago, as I commented in an earlier post, and found that teaming each shotgun with a boom op was the only effective method. THis brings up another question. Have you checked out those automatic mixers such as the sHures or the DAn DUgan product? I've been reading good things about the Dugan product recently. THis might be an effective use of such a thing. The Dugan mixers really do work very well. Shure also has a system where they have a cardioid mike and an omni mike at each station, one keying the automatic mixer and the other being used for the audio. That also works remarkably well. You can hear the noise floor moving around but not outrageously if it is done well and still has some human intervention. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Oct 8, 7:01*am, Chris Hornbeck
wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:20:41 -0500, Chris Hornbeck The pinhole camera analogy is as full of holes hee hee Chris, check out this interview with Marshall McLuhan from 1961 in playboy magazine (I'm no aficionado on playboy magazine but I'm guessing this article is something of an anomaly!!). He gives a really nice explanation of his notion of acoustic space. Nothing to do with microphones of course, but a fascinating mediation on looking vs hearing. DP |
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On Oct 9, 11:13*pm, "David@liminal" wrote:
On Oct 8, 7:01*am, Chris Hornbeck wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:20:41 -0500, Chris Hornbeck The pinhole camera analogy is as full of holes hee hee Chris, check out this interview with Marshall McLuhan from 1961 in playboy magazine (I'm no aficionado on playboy magazine but I'm guessing this article is something of an anomaly!!). *He gives a really nice explanation of his notion of acoustic space. *Nothing to do with microphones of course, but a fascinating mediation on looking vs hearing. DP sorry, forgot the URL: http://folk.uio.no/gisle/links/mcluhan/pb.html |
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On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:16:55 -0700 (PDT), "David@liminal"
wrote: On Oct 9, 11:13*pm, "David@liminal" wrote: On Oct 8, 7:01*am, Chris Hornbeck wrote: Chris, check out this interview with Marshall McLuhan from 1961 in playboy magazine (I'm no aficionado on playboy magazine but I'm guessing this article is something of an anomaly!!). *He gives a really nice explanation of his notion of acoustic space. *Nothing to do with microphones of course, but a fascinating mediation on looking vs hearing. http://folk.uio.no/gisle/links/mcluhan/pb.html Thanks for the link. 1969 was a long time ago, but only yesterday. Well, not really; just riffing on McLuhan. Arf. We certainly live in a post-McLuhan world, and all for the better, IMO. A truly funny guy: "Of his own work, McLuhan has remarked: 'I don't pretend to understand it. After all, my stuff is very difficult.' " - from the lead-in. Much thanks, as always, Chris Hornbeck |
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useing shotgun mics
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Roy W. Rising wrote: --snip-- Here's mo http://www.coutant.org/ev643/index.html Thanks for the link! I spent way too much time exploring the site. Cheers mike |
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