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How to complain about newsgroup trolls - a worked example
"Chris Whealy" wrote in message
... Cross posting to rec.music.makers.percussion and rec.audio.pro snip The following example is taken from a recent post to the rec.music.maker.percussion newsgroup, but is representative of this general category of abusive post. Path: news.sap-ag.de!news2!news1.dtag.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.k-dsl.de!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: "Drmmr" Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion Subject: Failed attemtps Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:18:54 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 0Tn5kKu+uggfa8P+Hq9fGg.user.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.sap-ag.de rec.music.makers.percussion:409867 FWIW, one of the tricks I've used in the past to out people posting under different names or forged names, is to look at the 'signature' of their news client. In your example, these two headers make up a fairly specific combination of versions for the sender's news reader: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 This helps to identify that there's a common sender for a collection of anonymous or forged messages. In some cases if the abuser also sends normal, non-anonymous posts from the same client, then they can be linked to the forged posts and exposed. Even though the signature is not going to be unique to an indivudual news client, it's frequently unique among the active members of a specific group. Yeah, that's a lot of work by itself, but being a compusive programmer I wrote a program to search a news group for a set of headers like this, and download the matching messages. Chris, you may remember I used this on a prominant troll a some years back. Of course it's all too easy for the trolls to do their dirty work using Google now, but it's also easy to block that noise. Sean |
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How to complain about newsgroup trolls - a worked example
"Soundhaspriority" wrote ...
You guys are far more into this than I am, even though McCarty does seem to obsessively forge me. However, I feel the need to point out something he All forgers of idiotic posts are not stupid. There's a punchline about the person who loses all the wheel lugs for one flat tire outside an insane asylum, and is helped to the solution by an inmate, who says, "I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid." This applies to an individual like McCarty in the following way. Although he has undoubtedly made stupid life choices (strategy), he is capable of considerable ingenuity applied to forgeries and "social hacks" (tactics). If he was not already aware that someone would look at the news client, he now is, which robs you of the ability to do some very interesting detective work. I am quite sure he uses multiple aliases, and has even stolen the ID of someone who infrequently posts in r.a.o., just as a dare! McCarty has the ability of a script kiddie with respect to hacks. Several cases have occurred that raise specific suspicion. McCarty reads everything you write, and, since he has nothing else to do, spends his hours spinning plots that ultimately have no purpose, but can be annoying. He is not a mindless idiot; he's a mentally ill person with some capacity for tactical thought. So, as I suggested to others, I suggest to you: don't discuss issues such as the above publicly. Open private lines of communication between yourselves. Secrecy will preserve your power. But none of that explains why he continues to use buzzardnews. There appear to be no legitimate posters from buzzardnews (and if there are, they deserve whatever fate we can arrange for this slimy NNTP provider), so it makes it trivial to identify his posts, at least those from buzzardnews. |
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