How to play CDs in new cars...

On 10/06/2021 1:18 pm, Fishrrman wrote:
> I have a lot of CDs. Many hundreds of them. Thousands of them.
>
> My 2013 Toyota RAV4 has a CD player as a part of the audio system. No
> problems there.
>
> But I looked at the new RAV4's, and they no longer have a CD player
> available at all in any configuration.
>
> Well, ok, my 2013 also has a USB port (suitable for a flashdrive with
> mp3 files on it), along with a 3.5mm analog input to get music in that
> way from any device with analog out via the headphone jack.
>
> But... the new RAVs have only a USB port. There's no 3.5mm jack, so I
> couldn't even plug in a small portable CD player (which I have).
>
> That leaves no practical way to get CD-based audio into the car's sound
> system.
>
> I've heard that there are a few portable CD players with bluetooth, but
> doesn't BT degrade sound quality "in the transmission"?
>
> Question:
> Are there any small portable CD music players that have DIGITAL OUT (via
> USB) as well as analog out? Although I'm not sure how that would
> interface with the car's audio system, which is probably programmed to
> look for mp3 files with tagged metadata.
>
> Looks like the only way to take your CDs along with new cars, is to do
> what I used to do in the old days: Take the portable player along with
> some headphones, and listen that way...


I simply cant *believe* anyone who obviously has a computer, would want
to stuff around with CD's in a car in this century!! Simply transferring
the CD's to a USB stick will let you play 100's of wave files, or
thousands of MP3 files. The more usual problem is people with older cars
wondering how to play their digital files and ditch the CD's!!!

On 11/06/2021 8:36 am, geoff wrote:
> On 11/06/2021 4:23 am, Tobiah wrote:

>> You can download as much as you
>> like to your device for ***offline*** listening.
>>
>
> Not as lot of use if you are driving beyond interweb coverage.

Did you really miss this or just not bother reading?

On 11/06/2021 10:58 am, Mike Rivers wrote:
> On 6/10/2021 12:23 PM, Tobiah wrote:
>> It's definitely time to drop the CD's.Â* There is really no need
>> for mechanical storage anymore.
>
> Sure there is. You can take it with you and you know where it is. Take
> care of your CDs and they'll last the rest of your life. No need to
> access the Internet to put data there and then take it out.

Yep, CDs still useful backup AT HOME.

>
> Copy 100 hours of music files to your phone and you'll be entertained
> for a long, but without a good data base you won't be able to find a
> specific song if you want it. That's easier to do with CDs.

HAHA. FAR easier to query search for a song in an automatically
generated database of perhaps thousands of songs, than it is to search
through hundreds of CD's manually!!!


> And, as
> someone else said, if you use cloud storage for your music, you need a
> reliable Internet connection, and depending on what kind of data plan
> you have, the meter might be running while you're groovin'.


I simply cant imagine trying to live stream music in a car, or why you
would ever want to!

On 11/06/2021 6:01 pm, Trevor wrote:
> On 11/06/2021 8:36 am, geoff wrote:
>> On 11/06/2021 4:23 am, Tobiah wrote:
>
>>> You can download as much as you
>>> like to your device for ***offline*** listening.
>>>
>>
>> Not as lot of use if you are driving beyond interweb coverage.
>
> Did you really miss this or just not bother reading?
>
>

Not talking to you. Talking to the OP. This thread is not about you ...

geoff

On 6/11/2021 2:10 AM, Trevor wrote:
>>
>> Copy 100 hours of music files to your phone and you'll be entertained
>> for a long, but without a good data base you won't be able to find a
>> specific song if you want it. That's easier to do with CDs.
>
> HAHA. FAR easier to query search for a song in an automatically
> generated database of perhaps thousands of songs, than it is to search
> through hundreds of CD's manually!!!

How often to you (or anyone) search for a single song? When I want to do
that, maybe a few times a year, I go to the Internet. And usually the
song I'm seeking is something that isn't on CD, or at least on one of my
own CDs anyway.

But this is a matter of how you choose to listen to music.

>> And, as someone else said, if you use cloud storage for your music,
>> you need a reliable Internet connection, and depending on what kind of
>> data plan you have, the meter might be running while you're groovin'.

> I simply cant imagine trying to live stream music in a car, or why you
> would ever want to!

Oh, I do it all the time! It's called "listening to the radio." We have
a couple of good classical music stations and, at times, jazz stations,
that can keep my ears occupied and my brain not distracted from driving.


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On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 08:51:01 -0400, Mike Rivers >
wrote:

>Oh, I do it all the time! It's called "listening to the radio." We have
>a couple of good classical music stations and, at times, jazz stations,
>that can keep my ears occupied and my brain not distracted from driving.
>

I almost never listen to music when I'm driving. Plays and audio books
are my driving companions of choice. A four hour drive can pass
quickly that way.

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On 6/11/2021 9:21 AM, Don Pearce wrote:
> I almost never listen to music when I'm driving. Plays and audio books
> are my driving companions of choice. A four hour drive can pass
> quickly that way.

I listen to music on the radio when I'm driving locally, but for road
trips, it's always playback from files I've loaded on my phone for the
trip. I have a computer set up to record about five different weekly
streaming 2- or 3-hour radio shows that feature music that I enjoy, so
basically I listen to those shows when on the road or in the air. It's
an easy load-in since about 10 programs (each a single file) is
generally enough to keep me in music until I return home. It's not like
I'll be looking for a specific song there. One of the reasons why this
works for me is because the show hosts are very good curators and rarely
play something that makes me want to skip over it.

I find it difficult to concentrate on two things at once. If I tried to
listen to a book when driving, I'm likely to miss much of it. I don't
mind if I can't remember the last song I heard.

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On 6/10/21 7:50 PM, Fishrrman wrote:
> On 6/10/21 12:23 PM, Tobiah wrote:
>> I seriously think that the way to go
>> now is to just have a paid Spotify account.

> A good portion of the stuff I have isn't going to be found on Spotify.
Fair enough. It's time to start ripping to .flac then.
Keep the data in at least two geographically distinct
locations. You could load your entire collection onto a
single SD card in your phone and stream to your car from there.

> Not as lot of use if you are driving beyond interweb coverage.
>
> geoff

As I mentioned, Spotify allows you to download as much as you
like for offline listening.

On 6/10/2021 5:58 PM, Mike Rivers wrote:
> On 6/10/2021 12:23 PM, Tobiah wrote:
>> It's definitely time to drop the CD's. There is really no need for
>> mechanical storage anymore.
>
> Sure there is. You can take it with you and you know where it is.
> Take care of your CDs and they'll last the rest of your life. No need
> to access the Internet to put data there and then take it out.

This might be fine if your want to take 5 CD's in the car and put
them in a visor case, but fumbling with a CD at all is really a
necessity of the past.

> Copy 100 hours of music files to your phone and you'll be entertained
> for a long, but without a good data base you won't be able to find a
> specific song if you want it.

For me, it's just "Hey Google, play Dark Side of the Moon", and it's there.

Also, "play classic rock from the '70s", or "play lute music". The AI
is getting freakishly good, and it's time to embrace the new way.