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problem with sheeeety Stratocaster
yo MS,Shiva and other geetah nutzs!
I have problem with one Stratocaster; they (hehe there are always some They who mess with wrong things) changed body of mentioned geetah; after that-noises appears,in fact-buzz and noises; I opened bloody thing,checked wiring,but I can't find anything wrong: in fact,I just dismantled all wiring,and wire it again-grounds of pickups series to MG (main ground at Volume pot body),live ends of pickups to switch,one series wire from MG to both tone pots,one wire to whatiz****inwordformetalblockwithholesforstrings? . nada,nope,nothing,same! where I can find Stratocaster wiring scheme,both-electronical and visual? what I'm missing there? funny-that is not first geetah what I repair,but life is full of fun!! -- Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU |
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Hi RATs!
Bridge. I use jack as ground zero, but, I still have problems sometimes ... Did you clean pots? Happy Ears! Al Alan J. Marcy Phoenix, AZ PWC/mystic/Earhead |
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nuts like always,respond is prompt (including David Boylan via personal
E-mail); ok. right word is bridge or bridge block-in my language is "most " (bridge) or "kobilica" (Keel). if I correct problem,you will not hear again ; If not-I will cry again ,hehe verry loud! -- Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU |
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Start with the ground and hot going to the jack...
make sure you don't have an intermittant coax. Hum will come from the strings not being grounded at the BRIDGE (whatiz****inwordformetalblockwithholesforstrings? .) You can trouble shoot the thing by turning down the volume pot(s) and/or switching the pickups... the signal path is butt simple: pickups- switch- pots- jack. So, just go by elimination (short it out/switch it out/turn it down) and see where the source is... You could be picking up noise - like light dimmers - since Strats do not have hum bucking pickups... Some people like to take copper or aluminum adhesive backed foil and make a nice ground plane and box for the electronics under the pick guard - reduces the residual noise/hum quite a bit... In a pinch - wire the pickup direct to a jack and listen... then there's nothing in the path but the pickup and jack, eh? And then there is that ratty guitar cord and the wierd amp ur using?? Sure they're ok? _-_-bear Choky wrote: yo MS,Shiva and other geetah nutzs! I have problem with one Stratocaster; they (hehe there are always some They who mess with wrong things) changed body of mentioned geetah; after that-noises appears,in fact-buzz and noises; I opened bloody thing,checked wiring,but I can't find anything wrong: in fact,I just dismantled all wiring,and wire it again-grounds of pickups series to MG (main ground at Volume pot body),live ends of pickups to switch,one series wire from MG to both tone pots,one wire to whatiz****inwordformetalblockwithholesforstrings? . nada,nope,nothing,same! where I can find Stratocaster wiring scheme,both-electronical and visual? what I'm missing there? funny-that is not first geetah what I repair,but life is full of fun!! -- Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU |
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Shiva wrote: "Fred Nachbaur" wrote in message .. . Choky wrote: yo MS,Shiva and other geetah nutzs! I have problem with one Stratocaster; they (hehe there are always some They who mess with wrong things) changed body of mentioned geetah; after that-noises appears,in fact-buzz and noises; I opened bloody thing,checked wiring,but I can't find anything wrong: in fact,I just dismantled all wiring,and wire it again-grounds of pickups series to MG (main ground at Volume pot body),live ends of pickups to switch,one series wire from MG to both tone pots,one wire to whatiz****inwordformetalblockwithholesforstrin gs?. nada,nope,nothing,same! where I can find Stratocaster wiring scheme,both-electronical and visual? what I'm missing there? funny-that is not first geetah what I repair,but life is full of fun!! Yo Choky! Funny you should refer to us as geetah nutzs, you just spelled it wrong, the answer is at guitarnuts.com! http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/index.html The stock strat wiring diagram is he http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/stockstrat.html whatiz****inwordformetalblockwithholesforstrings? . I call it the bridge block. ;-) And I second that call... OT: Ever tried playing single-coils *right* over a subway line? There is only *one* position (well, 2, if you count 180 off)... No, can't say that I have. But playing too close to Dogzilla has much the same effect, thanks to its Humamatic (TM) input-filter choke. ;-) Cheers, Fred -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Music: http://www3.telus.net/dogstarmusic/ | | Projects: http://dogstar.dantimax.dk | +--------------------------------------------+ |
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Careful...the bridge holds the strings up. The saddle (aka bridge
block), stop-bar or tailpiece holds them down. With plenty guitars the strings are not attached to the bridge block. Bridge is pretty universal and unambiguous...it does a similar job to the nut but at the other end. If you order a bridge block when you want the bit that holds the strings down, you will get the wrong thing in many cases, but not with a strat. Is stop-bar right? I have a Gibson-clone violin semi that attaches the strings to a dedicated block a couple of inches behind the bridge. My spares catalogue says "stop bar" but has no picture so I could be wrong. cheers, Ian "Choky" wrote in message ... nuts like always,respond is prompt (including David Boylan via personal E-mail); ok. right word is bridge or bridge block-in my language is "most " (bridge) or "kobilica" (Keel). if I correct problem,you will not hear again ; If not-I will cry again ,hehe verry loud! -- Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU |
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Choky wrote: nuts like always,respond is prompt (including David Boylan via personal E-mail); ok. right word is bridge or bridge block-in my language is "most " (bridge) or "kobilica" (Keel). if I correct problem,you will not hear again ; If not-I will cry again ,hehe verry loud! .... and with a big BUZZZZZZ on it! ;-) Cheers, Fred -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Music: http://www3.telus.net/dogstarmusic/ | | Projects, Vacuum Tubes & other stuff: | | http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk | +--------------------------------------------+ |
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is it redundant to say "TNX" to all ?
) -- Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU "Choky" wrote in message ... yo MS,Shiva and other geetah nutzs! bla bla |
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"Ian Iveson" wrote in message
... Careful...the bridge holds the strings up. The saddle (aka bridge block), stop-bar or tailpiece holds them down. Not quite. The saddles are the individual, adjustable pieces over which the strings pass (although some earlier Gibson bridges eg http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,...or_Bridge.html are a one piece casting with very limited adjustment for height, and fore/aft position, and no individual string adjustment whatsoever). With plenty guitars the strings are not attached to the bridge block. Bridge is pretty universal and unambiguous...it does a similar job to the nut but at the other end. If you order a bridge block when you want the bit that holds the strings down, you will get the wrong thing in many cases, but not with a strat. Is stop-bar right? I have a Gibson-clone violin semi that attaches the strings to a dedicated block a couple of inches behind the bridge. My spares catalogue says "stop bar" but has no picture so I could be wrong. See here for pics of the various types. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces.html |
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Hi RATs!
Bridge holds strings up so they can span across to the nut, or the fret in play Adjustable saddles are just marketing magic. Seems at least a few guitars with simple bar across bridge manage to sound OK My ancient Premier acoustic had the bridge bar lowered by Drew's Violin Shop in Minneapolis, Minnesota, lo these many years ago. The action is still a delight. Bought a set of coated strings. They still sound fresh after many months. Who said it is all downhill? Happy Ears! Al Alan J. Marcy Phoenix, AZ PWC/mystic/Earhead |
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It's reality that's confused, not me. There are two meanings of
saddle. One the bridge sits on, and now little ones that the strings sit on. Simplicity gives best tone, as ever. But complexity gives best accuracy of pitch. Tone wins hands down IMHO. My coated strings play much better, and for much longer, than I do. cheers, Ian |
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ok,boyz and girlz-problem solved this dayz-alu foil and glue and hum and
buzz and fart is gone ) -- .. Choky Prodanovic Aleksandar YU "don't use force, use a larger hammer" - ZM .. |
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Hi RATs!
Tricky bit is getting guitar player to sit still while you glue foil Happy Ears! Al PS KT88 SE back to 80mA/210 volts, tried 100mA/250 volts and sound was less wonderful, sigh Alan J. Marcy Phoenix, AZ PWC/mystic/Earhead |
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Choky wrote: ok,boyz and girlz-problem solved this dayz-alu foil and glue and hum and buzz and fart is gone ) Oh, so it works for guitars also! Ever since I started wearing my alu-foil hat, all those voices and hum and buzz were gone too. :-p Nanu-nanu, Fred -- +--------------------------------------------+ | Music: http://www3.telus.net/dogstarmusic/ | | Projects: http://dogstar.dantimax.dk | +--------------------------------------------+ |
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