[Idi ta]

Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012, 2:47pm From:
(Patrick*Turner)


All Israel has to do is give land
back it stole. Ever seen a jew ever
give you anything?


"Jew" is spelled with a capital J.

You seem to have endured a lifetime of deprivation. Perhaps if you'd
been able to humanize any one of the "sheilas" who have passed through
your life, she would have offered you something meaningful.



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[Patrick Turner]

On Apr 3, 10:31*am, (Idi ta) wrote:
Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012, 2:47pm From:
(Patrick*Turner)

All Israel has to do is give land
back it stole. Ever seen a jew ever
give you anything?

"Jew" is spelled with a capital J.

You seem to have endured a lifetime of deprivation. Perhaps if you'd
been able to humanize any one of the "sheilas" who have passed through
your life, she would have offered you something meaningful.

So, all your tiny mind can compose is that I use a capital J when
talking about jews.

Plus make an idiotic remark about who I didn't get to humanize or ****
many shielas, whatever.

I'm quite glad I didn't **** every shiela who waggled her pretty arse
arse at me, ( and to all the other blokes ) because the fact is, many
were deadly to any man's peace of mind as time goes by. I'm very happy
to have done my bit to ensure the world copes better in future - by
means of NOT breeding. I could see, at a very early age, that breeding
was a dodgy thing ppl like to try to justify after doing it, when in
fact there's a heck of a lot wrong with breeding by humans. I doubt
you'd understand why though, and I ain't got time to explain.

I grew up in 1950s and 60s, and my family's first dealings with a jew
was to have one Dr Ernst Rabichech ( could be wrong spelling ) look
after the family teeth. He and his missus had been through Dachau
concentration camp, dispossesed, and they came to Oz to start a new
life. He had to study and sit through exams for dentistry, because the
dental regulatory authority hated having "wog" dentists start up
businesses in Oz, where they charged less and took business from
status quo Oz dentists. Doctors and many pros from Europe went through
a similar long hard process. But Ernst and his missus Fritzie became
very good friends with my parents. My dad was a vet, and gave
discounts to medical ppl in return for dog & cat fixing. Ernst died
first, maybe at 80, but Fritzie still was driving at 105, and could
tell a range of excellent jewish jokes. Unlike the vast majority I
have met in discussion groups, those jews I knew could joke about
themselves, and and never take themselves too seriously. I grew up
being told about how wonderful the kibbutz was for raising kids, and
how ahsolic the arabs were to poor little jews, after so many had been
shot and gassed in WW2. All Israel wanted was a little bit of land,
and to be left in peace. Well, later I began to see the palestinian
side of things, and not all was well with how jews first established
Israel, but then once anyone suffered like jews did in WW2, then
scruples tend to dissappear, and ppl insist on their own bit of a
better world. I also found out hardly any kids raised in the same
kibbutz ever married, and they needed to find a partner some distance
away. Jewish ways of life are not perfect, and nor are christian,
muslim, buddhist hindu ways of being either. I just went through life
working hard being good to ppl, and not believing in bull****.

Patrick Turner.

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[John L Stewart]

Lucky for us in the rest of the world that Rick Santorum the most extreme candidate pulled out of the Republican race to the bottom. Last night I briefly watched Glenn Beck another extremist. His bio on wikipedia does not speak well of his stabilty.

Some of the activity in America today reminds me a lot of Germany between the wars. Many unhappy people looking for an answer to their problems. In this case, well organized & funded religious groups claiming to speak for God.
And then hijack the political process for their own selfish purposes. Next thing we see is a Theocracy running America. Doesn't work well on the other side of the World, why would it work here?

All fun to watch. But lookout!

Cheers to all, John

[flipper]

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:45:32 +0000, John L Stewart
wrote:


Lucky for us in the rest of the world that Rick Santorum the most
extreme candidate pulled out of the Republican race to the bottom. Last
night I briefly watched Glenn Beck another extremist. His bio on
wikipedia does not speak well of his stabilty.

Some of the activity in America today reminds me a lot of Germany
between the wars.

Oh, of course it does.

Many would argue your 'Germany' analogy already took place in 2008.

Many unhappy people looking for an answer to their
problems.

As opposed to the idyllic 'happy people' everywhere else in the world
like, say, Greece.

In this case, well organized & funded religious groups
claiming to speak for God.

Name one.

And then hijack the political process for their own selfish purposes.

In other words, the "political process" is reserved for your views
alone and this is another of your 'shut up' speeches to anyone you
disagree with.

Btw, since you're so keen on 'Hitler' analogies that was his modus
operandi, as I mentioned the last time you went through one of these
tirades.

Next thing we see is a Theocracy running America. Doesn't work well on
the other side of the World, why would it work here?

Since no one has even hinted at one that is classic strawman drivel.

All fun to watch. But lookout!

Too late. We already elected a President who says he'll 'do it' on his
own, never mind the Constitution, if the People's House won't do what
he wants.

And we have a Senate that hasn't even taken up a budget, much less
passed one, in three years because they don't think what they're doing
would get them re-elected.

Cheers to all, John


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[Patrick Turner]

John said......

In this case, well organized & funded religious groups
claiming to speak for God.


Then Fipper asked/demanded.....

Name one.

Well, fine question, but just about all religions have a bible, torah,
koran, or Big Book which all the faithfull are expected to read and to
believe in, and of course all these religions say their Book is the
word of God, so hence these religions claim to "speak for God".

Then you have all the little MInor Bloaks who could have been a bit
schizophrenic or just plain crazy and outa tha mind, and they wrote
books, and said God spoke to them and that inspired them to write
God's words into a book, which of course the faithful must
follow&believe. Don't get me started on mumbo fukkin jumbo in eastern
religions and dreamtime native stories and so on and on with more and
more BS than anyone can stick a poke at.

Regardless of all the BS and meanings and theories on God, we still
have a terrible planet with major numbers of arsoles, many of whom
argue God is on their side.

Just be a good person, and spend time being good, instead worshipping
some unidentifiable un-quantifyable, un-definable God. The more you
examine the known universe, and take a look at the night sky, the less
there is to know about the infinity and eternity of what IS. With
telescopes and microspopes we probe deep, and ultimate reason for all
existance fails to become known.
So far, not even one tiny stray email from God has ever appeared in
anyone's Inbox. I think myself there are countless universes beyond
ours, maybe with entirely different laws of physics, and for any
decent kinda God with any real powers, He, She or It would have to be
aware of all existance in real time, so hence the speed of light would
have to be infinitely greater than 300,000km a second, which seems to
me to be glacially slow when dealing with infinite sized things. Also,
as far as any decent God fearing God to exist, time would not have the
terrible delays it has here, and the passage of 10 x 10 to power of
infinity years here might be like a second in a God's mind.

Just like Europeans had to wait from 0 AD when Christ was born until
1493 to make landfall in the USA, and realise that there were Big
Things away from what they knew, maybe we have to wait until 14930
before we contact life elsewhere in our little itsy bitsy teeny weeny
universe, and maybe until 149300 when we might meet God. But I reckon
we'll **** up big time before these latter dates at +20dB upward
intervals.

Meanwhile, I have to be fair and wize, and obey 10 commandments at
least which seem about right even if you completely abolish all belief
in God everywhere. I must obey secular laws, and watch what I do
carefully with vacuum tubes and while riding a bicycle. What I don't
know duzzen madder. Some of what I do know duzz madder, if it is
benefitial to know.

Patrick Turner.

[Nick Gorham]

On 13/04/12 12:17, Patrick Turner wrote:

In every person, it seems there is an FU2 gene, and it could be our downfall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

--
Nick

[John L Stewart]

Why Americans are happy

In 2008 it was reported that altho Americans were only 5% of the Worlds population they consumed 67% of the illegal drugs. And large doses of the legal drugs as well. Probably worse by now. That’s gotta make a lot of people happier than those easy going dudes in Greece, where there is only 20% compliance to taxation.

The War on Drugs is very successful since it is a great way to make the unemployment numbers look better. If you incarcerate as many people on a per capita basis as in Russia & China then all those locked up have an inside job. Quite a high percentage of those are the colored folks so that helps with their employment numbers.

Just think of all those attorneys making a career out of locking up people whether they need to be or not. The extra housing (prisons) needed to house all those folks keeps an army of contractors busy.

Lots of poorly educated whites want to be prison guards because it is safe employment by the state. How many people are employed by the Homeland Protection Agency & at what cost?

Gotta keep all those Latinos out so white Americans can work hard in the fields & slaughter houses. All that being Americas greatest growth industry. Good for the War on Drugs. Keep America working.

And many jobs did Mitt Romney export while amassing his $300M?

Should we go on?

Cheers to all, John

[Patrick Turner]

On Apr 14, 1:08*am, Nick Gorham wrote:
On 13/04/12 12:17, Patrick Turner wrote:

*In every person, it seems there is an FU2 gene, and it could be our downfall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

--
Nick

Once upon a time, the ratio or ppl to land available for some sort of
farming allowed some to become "common" or for shared purposes. The
extreme position was maybe a million years ago when Homo Sapiens was
emerging, and in extremely low numbers, and the whole fukkin world was
one big common. Tribes grew bigger, dependancy on herds and crop
farming began and ownership battles began, ie, exclusion enforcement,
and discrimination. The FU2 was safe because so many ppl were prepared
to defend it, and prosper from it, and those whose FU2 was the
strongest survived against the Sharists, who timidly faced others, and
settled to share the herd and crops without poking the others with a
spear, or making a death raid on their neighbouring tribe.

The HUGE upward demand increase on available land has transformed the
romantic idealic balance of the natural landscape blended with the
husbanded landscape. Every square inch of land is conted, spied on
from sattelites, and must be productive, and to hell with all other
considerations. In 50 more years, elephants and urangutangs and
countless other species will be wiped from Earth, because of global
greed and the global FU2 gene.

An average someone aged 20 in 2062 jus' won't give a **** about much,
but he, she, or it will conduct life to preserve the FU2 gene.

In 50 years, deep in suburban jungles where chemical resistant weeds
unstopably grow through cracks in concrete and where people will have
become entirely ignorant of the past, there will exist a very small
need to preserve the few last surviving species of vacuum tubes, and
vacuum tubed amplifiers. Most of Us *******s here now will be found to
have not been able to save the generation of kids produced by the
generation we produced, from themselves, and their FU2 gene. There
will always be a tiny percentage of ppl always trying to keep vacuum
tubes alive despite the ardent efforts of Republicans to make
everything in the environment worse, because they worship the FU2
gene, and they work to destroy the habitats of known dwindling flocks
and herds of vacuum tubes amoung the un-cool backblocks in run down
"old" suburbs built using magic material known as Ticky-Tacky,
invented in the 1950s, when a bean counter took over from an engineer
to design the known world because so many *******s were waiting
outside with wife and 4 kids and armed with demands and wish-lists
miles long.

Patrick Turner.