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Default Esquire magazine: Why 3 out of 4 White Supremacists Support BarackObama

Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama

How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the
possibility of America’s first black president? Not necessarily the
way you think they would.

By David Peisner

If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain
over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and
Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the following fact: In an
informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer
Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists.
(Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample
size -- limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist
-- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup doesn’t mean there
ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising
views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic
electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old
white man.

Tom Metzger

Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism
Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won
the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared
on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was
broken in a brawl.

“The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to make
much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He’s a
warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush.
Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I
have no problem with black racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I
found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity
against my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being
dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just come
out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate black people. I
just think it’s in the best interest of the races to be separated as
much as possible. See, I’m a leftist. I’m not a rightist. I hate the
transnational corporations far more than any black person.”

Erich Gliebe

Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com
Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky
Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media
Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance
Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0
record as a professional boxer under the nickname, “The Aryan
Barbarian.”

“Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s racially
conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise
the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities,
they’ve been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a
racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of
the whites, knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white
Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially
conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being
attacked as being racist. Let’s face it, white people aren’t going to
fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don’t
think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all
about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us
in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good thing. I
give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as
pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very intelligent man, an
excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that.
Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black
president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he’s not black
enough.”

Ron Edwards

Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net
Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses
Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants
Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for
inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA
into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non-
Christians to join.

“Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his mother was
white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do anything good. All
he’s living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don’t
think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to
say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner
table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they
have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the
booth privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat.
If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only one I
can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m for. I’m
afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m going Republican
and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too.”

Yahanna

Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical Knowledge
Likes: Segregation
Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture, Muslims,
Christians, Martin Luther King Jr.

Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black
supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C. spurred
changes in the local noise ordinance.

“Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for president was
one of the saddest days in black history. Another legacy of black
death is about to begin, just like it began back in the '60s with
probably the greatest traitor to black people in modern-day history,
Martin Luther King. Every black leader that has some form of power has
given black people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to
the white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to black
people. Black people need to move away from the establishment and
towards a moral change. As for Obama, first of all, he’s not even a
black man in the terms of what real black people consider a black man.
He’s of African and white descent. How easily he dismissed his
affiliation with Reverend Wright, was a clear indication that this is
a politician, not a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw
away that Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away
black people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white
people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The
disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set us back
another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better shot for black
people.”

Rocky Suhayda

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so
few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were
one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.”

“White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who
happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National
Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is
almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the
globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who
supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a
continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a
black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist
religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have
‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that’s
the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person
embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all
racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the
interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair
with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic
justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern
Sodom and Gomorrah.”

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...t-obama-061308

www.davidduke.com
www.stormfront.org
www.vnn.com
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Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama

How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view
the possibility of America’s first black president? Not
necessarily the way you think they would.

By David Peisner

If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John
McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but
the McCain and Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the
following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of
four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the
clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our
methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size
-- limited to four white supremacists and one black
nationalist -- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup
doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is
just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked
to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a
46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man.

Tom Metzger

Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government,
capitalism Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan
in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for
Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s
show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl.

“The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to
make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much
worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more
dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of
My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black
racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I found a solace in
nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against
my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being
dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just
come out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate
black people. I just think it’s in the best interest of the
races to be separated as much as possible. See, I’m a leftist.
I’m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far
more than any black person.”

Erich Gliebe

Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com
Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky
Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media
Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label,
Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business
juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the
nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.”

“Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s
racially conscious. One of our big things in the National
Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people.
Young whites in universities, they’ve been stripped of any
kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive
sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites,
knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white
Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be
racially conscious, to talk about their people or their
community without being attacked as being racist. Let’s face
it, white people aren’t going to fight for their causes, for
their kind with a white president. I don’t think McCain even
acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all about granting
amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in
wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good
thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns
as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very
intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John
McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the
white race is to have a black president. My only problem with
Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough.”

Ron Edwards

Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net
Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses
Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants
Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law
Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager;
building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups
by allowing non- Christians to join.

“Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his
mother was white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do
anything good. All he’s living off of is the color of his skin
to get elected. I don’t think America wants a black president.
Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I
believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I
do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and
show the other face. When people are voting in the booth
privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat.
If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only
one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m
for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m
going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are
voting for McCain too.”

Yahanna

Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical
Knowledge Likes: Segregation
Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture,
Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr.

Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black
supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C.
spurred changes in the local noise ordinance.

“Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for
president was one of the saddest days in black history.
Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it
began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to
black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every
black leader that has some form of power has given black
people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the
white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to
black people. Black people need to move away from the
establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first
of all, he’s not even a black man in the terms of what real
black people consider a black man. He’s of African and white
descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend
Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not
a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that
Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black
people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white
people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The
disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set
us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better
shot for black people.”

Rocky Suhayda

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact
that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11
hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start
getting somewhere.”

“White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter
who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the
negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I
see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to
fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for
Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of
America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last
eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who
loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion,
is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have
‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize
-- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that
a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a
positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks.
Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white
American worker, while having a love affair with just about
every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to
have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern
Sodom and Gomorrah.”

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...upport-obama-0
61308

www.davidduke.com
www.stormfront.org
www.vnn.com

Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? But, black
people don't hate all white people, huh? So, how do you explain
the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known
Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into
the 97%+ range? Are these black men and women racists or is it
only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own
brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your
ass.

--
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"Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the
right things" - Peter Drucker
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:31:59 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:

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Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama

How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view
the possibility of America’s first black president? Not
necessarily the way you think they would.

By David Peisner

If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John
McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but
the McCain and Obama camps probably haven’t factored in the
following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of
four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the
clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our
methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size
-- limited to four white supremacists and one black
nationalist -- but just because it wouldn’t fly with Gallup
doesn’t mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is
just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked
to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a
46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man.

Tom Metzger

Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance: www.resist.com
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government,
capitalism Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan
in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for
Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera’s
show in 1988 when Rivera’s nose was broken in a brawl.

“The corporations are running things now, so it’s not going to
make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much
worse. He’s a warmonger. He’s a scary, scary person -- more
dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of
My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black
racists. I’ve got the quote right he ‘I found a solace in
nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against
my mother’s white race.’ The problem with Obama is he’s being
dishonest about his racial views. I’d respect him if he’d just
come out and say, ‘Yeah, I’m a black racist.’ I don’t hate
black people. I just think it’s in the best interest of the
races to be separated as much as possible. See, I’m a leftist.
I’m not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far
more than any black person.”

Erich Gliebe

Who: Chairman, National Alliance: www.natvan.com
Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky
Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media
Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label,
Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business
juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the
nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.”

“Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he’s
racially conscious. One of our big things in the National
Alliance is to raise the racial consciousness of our people.
Young whites in universities, they’ve been stripped of any
kind of racial identity. Obama may be a racist in a positive
sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of the whites,
knock some sense into them. They’ll see that non-white
Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be
racially conscious, to talk about their people or their
community without being attacked as being racist. Let’s face
it, white people aren’t going to fight for their causes, for
their kind with a white president. I don’t think McCain even
acknowledges that a white race exists. He’s all about granting
amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us in
wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that’s not a good
thing. I give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns
as far as pulling the troops out of Iraq. He’s a very
intelligent man, an excellent speaker and has charisma. John
McCain offers none of that. Perhaps the best thing for the
white race is to have a black president. My only problem with
Obama is perhaps he’s not black enough.”

Ron Edwards

Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America: www.kkkk.net
Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses
Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants
Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law
Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager;
building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups
by allowing non- Christians to join.

“Obama, I think he’s a piece of ****. I don’t care that his
mother was white. I don’t think he has enough brains to do
anything good. All he’s living off of is the color of his skin
to get elected. I don’t think America wants a black president.
Most of them are too afraid to say that they believe the way I
believe. They sit around their dinner table and talk the way I
do, but when they get out in public, they have two faces and
show the other face. When people are voting in the booth
privately, they’ll vote Republican even if they’re a Democrat.
If he wins, I’ll laugh. I don’t like McCain, but he’s the only
one I can vote for. He’s against a lot of the things that I’m
for. I’m afraid that he’s going to mess with gun laws. But I’m
going Republican and I talked to my guys and most of them are
voting for McCain too.”

Yahanna

Who: General, Israelite School Of Universal Practical
Knowledge Likes: Segregation
Dislikes: White oppressors, black women, American culture,
Muslims, Christians, Martin Luther King Jr.

Career Highlights: Featured in 1999 BBC program about black
supremacists; his street corner rants in Washington D.C.
spurred changes in the local noise ordinance.

“Finding out Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee for
president was one of the saddest days in black history.
Another legacy of black death is about to begin, just like it
began back in the '60s with probably the greatest traitor to
black people in modern-day history, Martin Luther King. Every
black leader that has some form of power has given black
people false hope, when in fact, the closer they get to the
white establishment, the more they become an actual enemy to
black people. Black people need to move away from the
establishment and towards a moral change. As for Obama, first
of all, he’s not even a black man in the terms of what real
black people consider a black man. He’s of African and white
descent. How easily he dismissed his affiliation with Reverend
Wright, was a clear indication that this is a politician, not
a man of any real conviction. The same way he threw away that
Reverend, once he becomes president, he must throw away black
people. He’s going to have to harm black people to make white
people satisfied that he’s not Reverend Wright’s boy. The
disappointment we’re going to suffer from him is going to set
us back another fifty years. McCain is definitely the better
shot for black people.”

Rocky Suhayda

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party: www.americannaziparty.com
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact
that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11
hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start
getting somewhere.”

“White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter
who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the
negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I
see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to
fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for
Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of
America by illegals -- basically a continuation of the last
eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who
loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion,
is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have
‘made it’ immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize
-- that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that
a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a
positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks.
Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white
American worker, while having a love affair with just about
every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to
have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern
Sodom and Gomorrah.”

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feat...upport-obama-0
61308

www.davidduke.com
www.stormfront.org
www.vnn.com

Let me see, white people hate all black people, right? But, black
people don't hate all white people, huh? So, how do you explain
the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known
Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into
the 97%+ range? Are these black men and women racists or is it
only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own
brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your
ass.


Because your brand of bigotry and racism makes more sense?
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[snip]

Let me see, white people hate all black people, right?


Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike others
because they see them as "Black".

But, black
people don't hate all white people, huh?


Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?

So, how do you explain
the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known
Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets into
the 97%+ range?


I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by claiming
that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group voted for Kerry and
Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both "White". They also voted
against Alan Keyes for Senate twice. Skin color is not all that
matters. At least not to most of us.

Are these black men and women racists or is it
only possible for white folks to be racist? Now, take your own
brand of bigotry and racism presented here and blow it up your
ass.

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Let me see, white people hate all black people, right?


Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike
others because they see them as "Black".

But, black
people don't hate all white people, huh?


Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike
others they see as "White". The article you responded to even
quoted one. How did you miss that?


Being a bigot or racist is not limited to any particular race nor
is it in any way related to the tone of one's epidermis. Nor
should people vote strictly on the color of the candiates skin
any more than their religion, national origin or other non-
criteria. People should respect others for what they do and say
and they should vote for men and women who represent their values
and their views on the issues of the day. Period. To do anything
else is the very essense of discrimination, bigotry and racism.

So, how do you explain
the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known
Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets
into the 97%+ range?


I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by
claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group
voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both
"White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice.
Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of
us.


Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly
why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of
John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. Some say he is
****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he
is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you?

Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this
quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote
and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the
Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some
folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were
revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would
be a public outcry.

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Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?


.....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because
they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there.
Home truths suck don't they?
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion
du jour ...

Let me see, white people hate all black people, right?


Wrong. But some people who see themselves as "White" dislike
others because they see them as "Black".

But, black
people don't hate all white people, huh?


Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike
others they see as "White". The article you responded to even
quoted one. How did you miss that?


Being a bigot or racist is not limited to any particular race nor
is it in any way related to the tone of one's epidermis. Nor
should people vote strictly on the color of the candiates skin
any more than their religion, national origin or other non-
criteria. People should respect others for what they do and say
and they should vote for men and women who represent their values
and their views on the issues of the day. Period. To do anything
else is the very essense of discrimination, bigotry and racism.


Uh...where do you get off telling people how they should vote? If
someone wants to vote solely on race that's their business and none of
yours. I can't vote like that but I certainly don't think I should
tell others how they should vote. Then again I'm not as smart as you
are.


So, how do you explain
the percentage of blacks supporting Hussein Obama, a known
Marxist with provably ties to radicals and terrorists gets
into the 97%+ range?


I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by
claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group
voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both
"White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice.
Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of
us.


Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly
why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of
John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama. Some say he is
****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he
is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you?

Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this
quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote
and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the
Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some
folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were
revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would
be a public outcry.


So what? Again, that's none of anyone's business.
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in wrote:

Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion


[snip]

I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by
claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group
voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both
"White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice.
Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of
us.


Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly
why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of
John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama.


It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for
months. And his part of a large number of long time
Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing
Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William
Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is
Powell's skin color what matters?

Some say he is
****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he
is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you?


Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New
York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim.

Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this
quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote
and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the
Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some
folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were
revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would
be a public outcry.


Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for
president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point.


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On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein
Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?


....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because
they are not ethnically jewish.


Really? I am not sure how this is relevant, but it certainly is false.

Thought I'd fill in for you there.
Home truths suck don't they?


Truths? No.

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered"
in wrote:

Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion


[snip]

I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by
claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group
voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both
"White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice.
Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of
us.


Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly
why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of
John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama.


It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for
months. And his part of a large number of long time
Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing
Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William
Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is
Powell's skin color what matters?


former Press Secretary Scott McClellan

Some say he is
****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he
is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you?


Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New
York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim.

Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this
quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote
and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the
Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some
folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were
revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would
be a public outcry.


Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for
president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point.



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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:40:31 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism , For
Europeans in

wrote:

On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein
Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?


....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because
they are not ethnically jewish.


Really? I am not sure how this is relevant, but it certainly is false.


It had to be a bad joke.

Thought I'd fill in for you there.
Home truths suck don't they?


Truths? No.

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On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein
Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?


....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because
they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there.
Home truths suck don't they?


Truth must mean something different on your planet.
You think that if you post a blatant lie and call it the
"truth" people will fall for it? What an idiot.
Oh, and plonk, too.


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On Oct 24, 2:28 am, Matt Silberstein
Again, no. Some people who see themselves as "Black" dislike others
they see as "White". The article you responded to even quoted one. How
did you miss that?


....and Israel won't allow either of them into the country because
they are not ethnically jewish. Thought I'd fill in for you there.
Home truths suck don't they?


Truth must mean something different on your planet.
You think that if you post a blatant lie and call it the
"truth" people will fall for it? What an idiot.
Oh, and plonk, too.

If Faux News can do it he can too
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and all this crazy assed racist gun toting psycho christian garbage has what
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newsgroups?

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:01:44 -0500, in alt.atheism , "HEMI-Powered"
in wrote:

Matt Silberstein added these comments in the current discussion


[snip]

I haven't see that high a figure, but I don't explain it by
claiming that they all hate "Whites". After all, this group
voted for Kerry and Gore at about 75% and 25% for Bush, both
"White". They also voted against Alan Keyes for Senate twice.
Skin color is not all that matters. At least not to most of
us.

Best look further. Related example, the spin is on for exactly
why Colin Powell, a long-time Republican and 25 year friend of
John McCain would suddenly endorse Sen. Obama.


It is not exactly sudden. He has been sending signals on this for
months. And his part of a large number of long time
Republicans/conservatives who are abandoning McCain and endorsing
Obama. There is Reagan Solicitor General Charles Fried, ex-Gov William
Weld, and Chris Buckley to name a few. I can give you more. So why is
Powell's skin color what matters?


former Press Secretary Scott McClellan

Some say he is
****ed at the way President Bush treated him while others say he
is really a closet racist. I don't know, do you?


Some say it is because space aliens mess with typesetting at the New
York Times. I mean, "some say" is a garbage claim.

Back to my figure of black voting preferences, I have seen this
quoted on Gallup, Rasmussen, and all the other major popular vote
and swing state electoral votes for weeks and weeks as the
Bradley Effect is debated. I don't know the true number as some
folks intentionally lie to pollsters. I do know this: if it were
revealed that white voters are 97% in favor of McCain there would
be a public outcry.


Given that Obama is the first person with Black skin to run for
president and McCain is like the 200th they would have a point.



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