[MiNe 109]

Anyone know about the player on sale at audioadvisor and elsewhere? It's
said to have the innards of a much more expensive NAD.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NAT585

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

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"ScottW" wrote:

"MiNe 109" wrote in message
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Anyone know about the player on sale at audioadvisor and elsewhere? It's
said to have the innards of a much more expensive NAD.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NAT585

See if they'll give you service manuals on each.

There are internal pictures of the cheaper one up at stevehoffman.tv.

I got one on my AMC CD-9....it was funny.
Tech support kept asking me if I had a version P2.
I said I don't know, here's my S/N and mfg date etc.
Nothing says P2 on it.
Guy e-mails back and says I attached 'em both.
Service manual is the schematics/drawings and the
parts list split into part1 and part2.
It also shows the CD-9 is identical to a CD-8 with
the balanced output circuit unpopulated (DNI).

That's interesting as I'd read a claim they were entirely different.

I should use my CD-8 more, but I've grown accustomed to computer music
on headphones in the second system.

Stephen

[Arny Krueger]

"MiNe 109" wrote in message


Anyone know about the player on sale at audioadvisor and
elsewhere? It's said to have the innards of a much more
expensive NAD.

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NAT585

....which is probably not that much different than a Pioneer player that
costs maybe 1/5 as much.

[BretLudwig]

As usual Arny, you are not quite right. I don't know of another universal
player that has true DSD playback for $500.

"Unbeatable Audio Performance

Unlike many Universal Players that convert SACD's DSD format into CD's PCM
format, thus defeating the sonic advantage of DSD, separate signal paths
for the DVD and SACD audio maintain the highest possible levels of DVD, CD
and SACD sound quality. Digital audio outputs are available in both
coaxial, and optical (TosLink) SPDIF formats, as well as I/2 S digital
format via the HDMI output.

DVD-Audio uses the Dolby licensed MLP lossless compression to produce PCM
formatted high resolution signals with 24 bits and up to 192kHz sample
rates. MLP perfectly shrinks the very high data rates of DVD-Audio (up to
13.8 Mbps) to the DVD limit of 9.6 Mbps without losing any data. This
compares with data rates of approximately 1.5 Mbps for CD, and as little
as 0.03 Mbps for MP3 encoded audio.
Surround Sound Decoding

Dolby Digital and Dolby ProLogic decoding is also included, as is support
for MP3 and Windows Media Audio. The NAD T585 uses audiophile quality
24-bit, 192-kHz audio D/A converters. These devices are well protected
from noise caused by even minute fluctuations in current from the power
supply. The level of quantization noise within the frequency range is
uniform for all frequencies and very well suppressed. This D/A converter
ensures that all the sound you hear is as clear and noise-free as
possible. High speed FET output devices keep all the detail present in
high resolution SACD and DVD-Audio formats, perfectly intact.

Digital Bass Management is available for all surround sound formats. This
prevents bass frequencies from overloading and distorting your speakers by
'redirecting' them to your subwoofer which is specially designed to handle
the lowest octaves. When playing DVD-Video, DVD-Audio or Super Audio CD
sources, it is possible to preset speaker configurations. The crossover
point is selectable with 12 dB high and 24 dB low pass filter slopes."

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[Arny Krueger]

"BretLudwig" wrote in message
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As usual Arny, you are not quite right. I don't know of
another universal player that has true DSD playback for
$500.

"True DSD playback"????

Do tell what is *un* true DSD playback, what player spec sheet says that it
has *un*true DSD playback, and why should I worry?

Why is this an issue given that the dynamic range of the best recording I've
ever measured or heard was about 40 dB less than the dynamic range of a
*true* DSD player, and still 16 dB less than that of a plain vanilla CD
player?

[BretLudwig]

Dynamic range is not the only figure of merit for a disk player as you
well know. Quit crapping up the thread.

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