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In the near future DSP driven PWM amps will take over the vast majority of the audio world, All that is left of old time audio will be rec.audio.tubes and rec.audio.sandstate. The radio guys will have passed on. these groups will be populated by cranky old audio buffs praising the merits of old heavy heat-producing ineffecient discreet component audio equipment. Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors, the best tubes, resistors, capacitors, etc. Most of the audio world will wonder what the hell they are talking about, as they listen to their small sleek class-d amps, playing musac through terribly ineffecient speakers. Everything will be bland. They will drink a lot of kool-aid. Well, we're halfway there already. Bob H. |
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"Bob H." wrote: In the near future DSP driven PWM amps will take over the vast majority of the audio world Not very likely. Graham |
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"Bob H." wrote: Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors Goog Lord ! I hope not. The best spacer is no spacer btw. Graham |
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Eeyore wrote: "Bob H." wrote: Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors Goog Lord ! I hope not. The best spacer is no spacer btw. Graham Hi RATs! The future will be just fine. Eyesore may roar, but, he can't live forever Happty Ears! Al |
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"Bob H." wrote: In the near future DSP driven PWM amps will take over the vast majority of the audio world, All that is left of old time audio will be rec.audio.tubes and rec.audio.sandstate. The radio guys will have passed on. these groups will be populated by cranky old audio buffs praising the merits of old heavy heat-producing ineffecient discreet component audio equipment. Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors, the best tubes, resistors, capacitors, etc. Most of the audio world will wonder what the hell they are talking about, as they listen to their small sleek class-d amps, playing musac through terribly ineffecient speakers. Everything will be bland. They will drink a lot of kool-aid. Well, we're halfway there already. Bob H. Who give a rats about PWM? We all can say the drift to PWM with its improvements will make all existing SS amps operating in any class from C to AB to A seem like obsolete junk. Tubes will of course remain, and a few folks will regard them as being superior, and that will be that as that has been that for about 48 years since the first commercially viable germanium based power amps was launched at an unsuspecting large victim, Joe Public. PWM only makes amps cheaper to make, makes music cause less greenhouse gas, but musical quality won't change between being ****ful to superlative, depending on many variables involved. People thought the world would cave in with electricity but who wants to live without the ease of such cheap telegrams as we know to be in the form of our emails via PC. Last time I heard music through a pair of 100 watt pint sized PWM amps by CI-Audio, using my own reference speakers, I quickly came to realise the sound was no worse than solid state AB ampery. Tubes seem better though...shhhh, don't let ppl know.... Patrick Turner. |
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tubegarden wrote: Eeyore wrote: "Bob H." wrote: Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors Goog Lord ! I hope not. The best spacer is no spacer btw. Graham Hi RATs! The future will be just fine. Eyesore may roar, but, he can't live forever Happty Ears! Al In 1890, when the phongraph was invented, some rich and influential guy said "Damn, and now they want to record this rubbish so anyone's inabilities will be preserved forever!" So now we have Hevay Martel being preserved forever, and 'Lerve Songs' by Wailin' Tomcat and his mate, Cracker Uparse played so often we cannot escape it. And you said spam was a problem; man, there have been worse things! And for so long! Patrick Turner. |
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Patrick Turner wrote:
PWM only makes amps cheaper to make, makes music cause less greenhouse gas, but musical quality won't change between being ****ful to superlative, depending on many variables involved. Doesn't matter because they will only be playing mp3 files anyway ;-) Ian |
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"Bob H." wrote in message
ups.com In the near future DSP driven PWM amps will take over the vast majority of the audio world, Amps and crossovers integrated into speaker packages makes a lot of sense. PWM amps will eventually have the best price/performance. All that is left of old time audio will be rec.audio.tubes and rec.audio.sandstate. Mythical newsgroup, anybody? The radio guys will have passed on. these groups will be populated by cranky old audio buffs praising the merits of old heavy heat-producing ineffecient discreet component audio equipment. Wild ranting threads will permeate these groups, with subjects like which mica spacer sounds best with transistors, the best tubes, resistors, capacitors, etc. IOW, nothing changed. Most of the audio world will wonder what the hell they are talking about, as they listen to their small sleek class-d amps, playing musac through terribly ineffecient speakers. Yet another fuddy-duddy who thinks that if it isn't *his* music, its not really music. BTW, those aren't terribly inefficient speakers, they are small speakers with wonderful bandwidth and dynamic range. Everything will be bland. Never seems to happen. Cars have been under heavy development for over 100 years, and while some things have converged, they are also more different from each other than ever. They will drink a lot of kool-aid. More likely: Organically-grown natural juices, fresh and fermented. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Everything will be bland. Never seems to happen. Cars have been under heavy development for over 100 years, and while some things have converged, they are also more different from each other than ever. That's not true at all! I can't buy a new car anymore with suicide doors, a single headlight that points in the direction the steering wheel is pointed, with PRNDL buttons on the steering wheel to control the transmission, and so on! And what's up with two speed automatic transmissions, they aren't an option on any car anymore! Never mind the complete unavailability of new Studebaker Commander Convertibles! Tim. |
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ups.com Arny Krueger wrote: Everything will be bland. Never seems to happen. Cars have been under heavy development for over 100 years, and while some things have converged, they are also more different from each other than ever. That's not true at all! I can't buy a new car anymore with suicide doors, You over-constrained the question by putting in specific qualifiers. a single headlight that points in the direction the steering wheel is pointed, Who cares? with PRNDL buttons on the steering wheel to control the transmission, Who cares? and so on! And what's up with two speed automatic transmissions, they aren't an option on any car anymore! OK, so some stupid ideas went into remission, and other ideas take a talk with a customizer. If you want it, you can have it. I made a different point - not one about esoteric features, but one about the general diversity of cars. Never mind the complete unavailability of new Studebaker Commander Convertibles! LOL! |
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Ian Bell wrote: Patrick Turner wrote: PWM only makes amps cheaper to make, makes music cause less greenhouse gas, but musical quality won't change between being ****ful to superlative, depending on many variables involved. Doesn't matter because they will only be playing mp3 files anyway ;-) Ian Maybe two wrongs make a right.... Patrick Turner. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Everything will be bland. Never seems to happen. Cars have been under heavy development for over 100 years, and while some things have converged, they are also more different from each other than ever. That's not true at all! I can't buy a new car anymore with suicide doors, a single headlight that points in the direction the steering wheel is pointed, with PRNDL buttons on the steering wheel to control the transmission, and so on! And what's up with two speed automatic transmissions, they aren't an option on any car anymore! Never mind the complete unavailability of new Studebaker Commander Convertibles! Tim. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Everything will be bland. Never seems to happen. Cars have been under heavy development for over 100 years, and while some things have converged, they are also more different from each other than ever. That's not true at all! I can't buy a new car anymore with suicide doors, a single headlight that points in the direction the steering wheel is pointed, with PRNDL buttons on the steering wheel to control the transmission, and so on! And what's up with two speed automatic transmissions, they aren't an option on any car anymore! Never mind the complete unavailability of new Studebaker Commander Convertibles! Tim. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: Amps and crossovers integrated into speaker packages makes a lot of sense. Apart from needing an ac power connection as well ! Graham |
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