Any one know about these?
Here is the Ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

Dan Nicotera wrote:

Any one know about these?
Here is the Ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT


Yeah, I know *all* about 'em.

In fact, I had the first four samples that were released
outside the New Sensor company.

First, let me debunk some of the hyperbole in the e-bay
item description:

"GREAT LATE BREAKING NEWS: The tube manufacturer
and distributor has purchased the MULLARD brand name
and is now manufacturing genuine MULLARD brand EL34
tubes to the ORIGINAL Mullard specifications!"

Well, not quite. It's easy enough to see that these new
Mullard EL34s share the plate structure (and hence, the
narrow bottle diameter) of the venerable Sovtek EL34s of
days gone by - the same plates which are currently used in
the Electro-Harmonix EL34 and the Svetlana-badged EL34
currently produced in the Reflektor factory. Both of which,
BTW, are *excellent* tubes for use in guitar amps. (Since
I neither know nor care how they perform in audiophool
equipment, I'll leave comments in that direction to the Logo
Snobs duly assembled on RAT and AGA. ;-) The metal
suspension prongs and the micas appear to be identical also.
The differences are all on the inside, according to JC,
chief design engineer at New Sensor. First, the screens are
now gold-plated and the wire diameter has been increased.
Second, the cathode temperature has been lowered a couple of
hundred degrees. Third, G1 is now wound exactly the same as
the old Mullards, instead of with the variable pitch common
today. The sonic result is indeed similar to the classic
Mullard signature, at least in guitar amplifiers.

"This auction is for a factory fresh PAIR OF BRAND NEW
MULLARD EL34 TUBES. This auction consists of one
matched pair. These tubes are brand new recently
manufactured stock and are supplied in brand new Mullard
boxes."

The boxes are indeed gorgeous. ;-) By dint of trade law,
they can indeed be called Mullards in the same sense that
the Ampeg bass amps currently produced by St. Louis Music
can be called Ampegs. They are indeed factory fresh, and
they do indeed bear the Mullard badge. Are they *exactly*
the same as the old ones, as this e-bay glass hustler (no
negativity implied; I'm a glass hustler myself, although I
don't mess with e-bay) so frothily claims? No, they are not.
They are, however, excellent tubes. They do indeed produce a
similar sonic signature in guitar amps, especially Marshalls.
I like 'em, and I'm carrying them. Whether or not they can
live up to the Mullard heritage in the longevity department
is yet to be seen, since they simply haven't been out long
enough to establish any sort of track record. The tests I've
been able to perform on them in the small amount of time I've
had the samples tell me that they're rugged enough to function
reliably in guitar amplifiers, and that's all I care about.
We'll see. ;-)

"These MULLARD tubes are not vintage NOS but they
are genuine MULLARD tubes made to vintage Mullard
EL34 single getter specifications (see below)."

See above. ;-)

"Note to eBay: These tubes are not counterfeits. The tube
manufacturer and distributor has legally purchased the
Mullard brand of tubes. He has had the engineers in his
Russian factory reverse engineer these EL34 tubes to match
the specifications of the original single-getter Mullard
EL34 tubes. These tubes are Russian manufactured genuine
Mullard brand tubes and do not violate any copyright or
trademark regulations."

The glass hustler is engaging in a bit of CYA here, and rightly
so. I'd have done the same thing, given the same situation.
I'm sure we'll be seeing plenty of abuses in this direction,
as shady e-bay operators begin to use these new tubes to fleece
unsuspecting noobs who can't tell the difference between these
new Mullards and the original ones.

"These genuine single getter MULLARD EL34 tubes have a wonderful
sound quality and clarity which is unobtainable with any other
currently manufactured EL34 tube, and matches the sound of the
vintage MULLARD EL34 tubes."

They do indeed sound good. (In my experience.) A finer point
may (and will, inevitably) be put on this by the audiophools,
who have no problem spending $1.5K for a six-foot AC line
cord to improve the sound of their $50 tubes. ;-)

"These brand new Mullard EL34 tubes are first being marketed by
us on eBay. These are introductory prices, which are expected
to rise soon. Stock up while they are still available at a
reasonable price."

Well, that one certainly set off the Lord's Bull**** Detector.

The initial supply is limited, of course, as Mike is a good
businessman and is understandably cautious about producing
tens of thousands of something that might not catch on in
the marketplace, Glass Snobs being the fickle and unpredictable
folks that they are. The prices, however, are certainly *not*
going to rise anytime soon; in fact, they'll go *down* when
the "new" wears off and demand picks up. This seller's $75
"buy it now" price for a pair is ridiculously high as it is;
given the dealer cost on this item, $49 is more like it (I'll
be selling pairs for that figure or less, depending on the
yield rate after burn-in, QC, and matching) and as I stated
above, that should come down in the coming months if demand
picks up and Mike increases production.

"On a personal note, I have heard these same model tubes in
my two Altec mono amps, and the sound is absolutely amazing.
I cannot tell the difference between vintage Mullard
single-getter EL34 tubes and these new Mullard EL34 tubes."

That's sales-weasel hyperbole. I can hear a difference in
Marshall amps. They sound very similar, true, and most of
the difference is in the overdrive characteristics - I think
the new Mullards sound *better* than the old ones when driven
into distortion; they cream up *very* nicely. Of course, I'm
a lowly ivory-smasher and I'll defer to the hallowed opinions
of the string-plinkers, once I get enough feedback from the
cats who buy the first batch.

"Don't just take my word for it..."

I'm not. ;-)

Bottom line: good tube. One man's opinion, of course, but
I *have* had a bit of experience in picking glass. As with
every new tube I evaluate, I'm completely unconcerned with
the logo on the glass or how the box looks, or which country
it was manufactured in, etc. - all I care about is how it
sounds in a guitar amplifier. (Or, in my case, a Hammond
or a Leslie.) So far, I like 'em. 'Nuff said.


Lord Valve
Tone Chaperone

VISIT MY WEBSITE: http://www.nebsnow.com/LordValve
I specialize in top quality HAND SELECTED NOS and
current-production vacuum tubes for guitar and
bass amps. Good prices, fast service.
QSC amps, RNC compressors, lots of other good stuff!

Partial Client List: * Derek Trucks/Allman Brothers Band *
* Meatloaf * Catherine Wheel * Yo La Tengo * Let's Go Bowling *
* Rob Hyckys (guitarist for Commander Cody) * Waky Amps *
* Fleetwood Mac * Tyrin Benoit * Eugene Fodor * Dale Bruning *
* Komet Amplification * Dr. Z * Maven Peal * Blockhead Amps *
* Jim Kelley * Balls Amplification * Roccaforte Amplifiers *
* Gerhart Amplification * Aiken Amplification * The Right Half of AGA *
* Lots More *

NBS Electronics, 230 South Broadway, Denver, CO 80209-1510
Phone orders/tech support after 1:30 PM Denver time at 303-778-1156

- Our 23rd Year -

VISA - MASTERCARD - PAYPAL

"Posterity will ne'er portray
A nobler grave than this;
Here lie the bones of Marc Mulay -
Stop, traveler, and ****."

- Lord Valve -
(Paraphrase of Lord Byron, on Lord Castlereagh)

Yeah, just wait for new Tung Sol 6550 at eBay ...

--
Igor
http://www.arrakis.es/~igapop

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iga wrote:

Yeah, just wait for new Tung Sol 6550 at eBay ...

I'm cooking 100 of them right now.

BTW, *that* tube is *killer*. You'll see.

LV

"Dan Nicotera" wrote in message ...
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I'm glad Mullard copies pf EL34's are getting better and better. The
real NOS Mullards should be saved for vintage radios.

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I am sorry, folks, but I think what new sensor is doing should be a crime,
they take these crappy Reflektor-made "Sovtek" tubes and rebrand them as
Svetlana, Mullard, Tung-Sol, etc.

It dilutes these great brand names and creates mass confusion among tube
music lovers.

They ran Svetlana USA out of business, and now I have to tell my customers
"You want this Svetlana (winged C) that is not actually labeled Svetlana,
and they say "WTF?" and I agree with them!

Could someone put this Electro Harmonix bozo out of his misery, before he
wreaks any move havoc, and take the evildoers Bush, Cheney & Ashcroft with
you while you're at it! I think France, or some nuclear bombing range would
be a great new home for these four criminals.

cowboy

François Yves Le Gal wrote:

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 20:21:48 GMT, Lord Valve wrote:

BTW, *that* tube is *killer*.

Is it based on the Reflektor design?

It certainly uses the plates from the WE/WD series 6550s.

Those are good plates, no reason not to. But much of
the rest is different. You'll see when you eyeball 'em.

LV

A Mullard is a Mullard if it comes out of the Mullard factory in the UK and
it is 40+ years old, just like the Gioconda is the one the French stole us
and placed in the Louvre and not a copy of it, or a Chianti is a Chianti if
it comes from Tuscany grapes and not from Australian vineyards. Such items
are a matter of "collectible" or say "sentimental" value, not just plain
tubes or bottles or pictures.
Obviously, from a practical point of view, it is not always possible to own
only true Mullards and drink true Tuscany wine, let alone to keep the
Gioconda hanging on a kitchen wall like a calendar. I do enjoy Australian
wines, providing a very high quality at a sensible price, just like I enjoy
my Svetlanas 6L6GC, but when I looked for something "special" to make a
really great-looking amp I bought a couple of original Fivre 2A3 produced in
the '40s. I don't think they're so much better than the Sovteks (which cost
1/3 or less), but they are the REAL ones, that's all.
At the good end, it is almost only a matter of price/quality: if these new
Reflektor-made clones provide good quality (as it is for any Reflektor tube)
at a fair price, they're OK.
From the "ethic" point of view, they're correctly labeled "made in Russia"
and bear the OTK stamp, therefore they are clearly identified as clones.
I'd prefer they had the Reflektor logo with a "made to Mullard spec"
writing, to make apparent they're not real UK Mullards.

Ciao

Fabio


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Any one know about these?
Here is the Ebay link:

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Hi:

While I agree that the application of these grand old time names to new
Russian production adds to confusion and is potentially misleading to the
uninitiated, it's not the disaster you describe and may be a good thing
overall.

In a capitalist/consumerist environment, intangible assets like brands are
bought and sold all the time. Think of AR, KLH, Fisher, RCA etc,etc,etc.
You disparage New Sensor but what about the previous owners of those brands
who chose to sell them??? New sensor wouldn't have them if those owners
valued them like you think they should. As I'm sure you're aware,
Richardson did the same thing with BugleBoy/Amperex. If you really feel as
strongly about the issue as you seem to, your rage is more appropriately
directed to the original owners IMO. They were the real money-grubbers.

The potential good news is that the premium names appear to be reserved for
truly "premium" versions of Reflector/NewSensor production. This can't be
a bad thing if tube technology is to be viable alternative to sand in the
near future. The stock of "desirable" NOS tube types can only diminish and
at some point will be rare enough and priced so that only the most elite "or
crazy" will use them for anything but non-functional museum pieces.

As a person with customers, it would appear that you're just going to have
to provide them a little more of that knowledge thing as you sell your
product...which is why you're there for them in the first place, isn't it.

As a parting comment, I think it's naive to assume that new tube production
will continue forever. As the remaining locations of mfg "modernize", the
economics of tube production will probably become less favorable than they
are now.

--
Steve

P.S.
Kerry/Edwards are every bit as big a troupe of bozos as Bush/Cheney...but
you already knew that didn't you!?

Lord Valve wrote in message ...
Dan Nicotera wrote:

Any one know about these?
Here is the Ebay link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT


Yeah, I know *all* about 'em.

In fact, I had the first four samples that were released
outside the New Sensor company.

First, let me debunk some of the hyperbole in the e-bay
item description:

"GREAT LATE BREAKING NEWS: The tube manufacturer
and distributor has purchased the MULLARD brand name
and is now manufacturing genuine MULLARD brand EL34
tubes to the ORIGINAL Mullard specifications!"

Well, not quite. It's easy enough to see that these new
Mullard EL34s share the plate structure (and hence, the
narrow bottle diameter) of the venerable Sovtek EL34s of
days gone by - the same plates which are currently used in
the Electro-Harmonix EL34 and the Svetlana-badged EL34
currently produced in the Reflektor factory. Both of which,
BTW, are *excellent* tubes for use in guitar amps. (Since
I neither know nor care how they perform in audiophool
equipment, I'll leave comments in that direction to the Logo
Snobs duly assembled on RAT and AGA. ;-) The metal
suspension prongs and the micas appear to be identical also.
The differences are all on the inside, according to JC,
chief design engineer at New Sensor. First, the screens are
now gold-plated and the wire diameter has been increased.
Second, the cathode temperature has been lowered a couple of
hundred degrees. Third, G1 is now wound exactly the same as
the old Mullards, instead of with the variable pitch common
today. The sonic result is indeed similar to the classic
Mullard signature, at least in guitar amplifiers.

"This auction is for a factory fresh PAIR OF BRAND NEW
MULLARD EL34 TUBES. This auction consists of one
matched pair. These tubes are brand new recently
manufactured stock and are supplied in brand new Mullard
boxes."

The boxes are indeed gorgeous. ;-) By dint of trade law,
they can indeed be called Mullards in the same sense that
the Ampeg bass amps currently produced by St. Louis Music
can be called Ampegs. They are indeed factory fresh, and
they do indeed bear the Mullard badge. Are they *exactly*
the same as the old ones, as this e-bay glass hustler (no
negativity implied; I'm a glass hustler myself, although I
don't mess with e-bay) so frothily claims? No, they are not.
They are, however, excellent tubes. They do indeed produce a
similar sonic signature in guitar amps, especially Marshalls.
I like 'em, and I'm carrying them. Whether or not they can
live up to the Mullard heritage in the longevity department
is yet to be seen, since they simply haven't been out long
enough to establish any sort of track record. The tests I've
been able to perform on them in the small amount of time I've
had the samples tell me that they're rugged enough to function
reliably in guitar amplifiers, and that's all I care about.
We'll see. ;-)

"These MULLARD tubes are not vintage NOS but they
are genuine MULLARD tubes made to vintage Mullard
EL34 single getter specifications (see below)."

See above. ;-)

"Note to eBay: These tubes are not counterfeits. The tube
manufacturer and distributor has legally purchased the
Mullard brand of tubes. He has had the engineers in his
Russian factory reverse engineer these EL34 tubes to match
the specifications of the original single-getter Mullard
EL34 tubes. These tubes are Russian manufactured genuine
Mullard brand tubes and do not violate any copyright or
trademark regulations."

The glass hustler is engaging in a bit of CYA here, and rightly
so. I'd have done the same thing, given the same situation.
I'm sure we'll be seeing plenty of abuses in this direction,
as shady e-bay operators begin to use these new tubes to fleece
unsuspecting noobs who can't tell the difference between these
new Mullards and the original ones.

"These genuine single getter MULLARD EL34 tubes have a wonderful
sound quality and clarity which is unobtainable with any other
currently manufactured EL34 tube, and matches the sound of the
vintage MULLARD EL34 tubes."

They do indeed sound good. (In my experience.) A finer point
may (and will, inevitably) be put on this by the audiophools,
who have no problem spending $1.5K for a six-foot AC line
cord to improve the sound of their $50 tubes. ;-)

"These brand new Mullard EL34 tubes are first being marketed by
us on eBay. These are introductory prices, which are expected
to rise soon. Stock up while they are still available at a
reasonable price."

Well, that one certainly set off the Lord's Bull**** Detector.

The initial supply is limited, of course, as Mike is a good
businessman and is understandably cautious about producing
tens of thousands of something that might not catch on in
the marketplace, Glass Snobs being the fickle and unpredictable
folks that they are. The prices, however, are certainly *not*
going to rise anytime soon; in fact, they'll go *down* when
the "new" wears off and demand picks up. This seller's $75
"buy it now" price for a pair is ridiculously high as it is;
given the dealer cost on this item, $49 is more like it (I'll
be selling pairs for that figure or less, depending on the
yield rate after burn-in, QC, and matching) and as I stated
above, that should come down in the coming months if demand
picks up and Mike increases production.

"On a personal note, I have heard these same model tubes in
my two Altec mono amps, and the sound is absolutely amazing.
I cannot tell the difference between vintage Mullard
single-getter EL34 tubes and these new Mullard EL34 tubes."

That's sales-weasel hyperbole. I can hear a difference in
Marshall amps. They sound very similar, true, and most of
the difference is in the overdrive characteristics - I think
the new Mullards sound *better* than the old ones when driven
into distortion; they cream up *very* nicely. Of course, I'm
a lowly ivory-smasher and I'll defer to the hallowed opinions
of the string-plinkers, once I get enough feedback from the
cats who buy the first batch.

"Don't just take my word for it..."

I'm not. ;-)

Bottom line: good tube. One man's opinion, of course, but
I *have* had a bit of experience in picking glass. As with
every new tube I evaluate, I'm completely unconcerned with
the logo on the glass or how the box looks, or which country
it was manufactured in, etc. - all I care about is how it
sounds in a guitar amplifier. (Or, in my case, a Hammond
or a Leslie.) So far, I like 'em. 'Nuff said.


Lord Valve
Tone Chaperone

VISIT MY WEBSITE: http://www.nebsnow.com/LordValve
I specialize in top quality HAND SELECTED NOS and
current-production vacuum tubes for guitar and
bass amps. Good prices, fast service.
QSC amps, RNC compressors, lots of other good stuff!

Partial Client List: * Derek Trucks/Allman Brothers Band *
* Meatloaf * Catherine Wheel * Yo La Tengo * Let's Go Bowling *
* Rob Hyckys (guitarist for Commander Cody) * Waky Amps *
* Fleetwood Mac * Tyrin Benoit * Eugene Fodor * Dale Bruning *
* Komet Amplification * Dr. Z * Maven Peal * Blockhead Amps *
* Jim Kelley * Balls Amplification * Roccaforte Amplifiers *
* Gerhart Amplification * Aiken Amplification * The Right Half of AGA *
* Lots More *

NBS Electronics, 230 South Broadway, Denver, CO 80209-1510
Phone orders/tech support after 1:30 PM Denver time at 303-778-1156

- Our 23rd Year -

VISA - MASTERCARD - PAYPAL

"Posterity will ne'er portray
A nobler grave than this;
Here lie the bones of Marc Mulay -
Stop, traveler, and ****."

- Lord Valve -
(Paraphrase of Lord Byron, on Lord Castlereagh)

Thanks for giving a great tech. review on these. I am the type that
wants to know the electrical specs more than the audiofool "specs". I
say the best type is the type you like best. I can see using brand
names for restoration for show use, just to say you have a certain
brand for making an impression is stupid. I have had excellent results
with Russian valves. I wish Russia would make more demand types, e.g.
horiz. outputs, 6E5, 6U5, 6T5, 10, 45, 50, 310B, 350A/B, 211, 845,
etc.

"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
SNIP
As a parting comment, I think it's naive to assume that new tube
production
will continue forever. As the remaining locations of mfg "modernize", the
economics of tube production will probably become less favorable than they
are now.

--
Steve

Maybe ten years from now we'll be debating the relative merits of Nigerian
vs. Afghan EL-34's.

(pause)

NAHHHHHHHH..............

One hundred ? Hm, NS's September offer says " initial
quantity limit of 10 tubes per customer ". And I still can't see
them at NS catalogue. Tell us more about them.
Best wishes,

--
Igor
http://www.arrakis.es/~igapop


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iga wrote:

Yeah, just wait for new Tung Sol 6550 at eBay ...

I'm cooking 100 of them right now.

BTW, *that* tube is *killer*. You'll see.

LV

iga wrote:

One hundred ? Hm, NS's September offer says " initial
quantity limit of 10 tubes per customer ".

They don't call me "Lord Valve" fer nothin', sparky. ;-)

In fact, as part of the legal registration of the Tung-Sol
trademark, I purchased the first four pieces sold in
the world - for a dollar each. ;-)

And I still can't see
them at NS catalogue. Tell us more about them.

When the batch is all burned in and screened, I'll know more.

I'll need to get them into an SVT (a real one, say, from 1973
or earlier) so they can be suitably abused. I may send a
set to Tod Smalley, bassist for the Derek Trucks Band, and
see what he thinks of 'em. His '73 LV-tweaked SVT has
been grinding out the licks for nearly three years now, with
the original set of Sovtek 6550WE I installed.

LV



Best wishes,

--
Igor
http://www.arrakis.es/~igapop

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...


iga wrote:

Yeah, just wait for new Tung Sol 6550 at eBay ...

I'm cooking 100 of them right now.

BTW, *that* tube is *killer*. You'll see.

LV

If it were not a theft in this case, Napoleon 1er (just like all others
passing by with their armies, be them from Spain or from Germany or you name
it) took away from Italy almost anything which had no roots.
Nevertheless, I sincerely admit that many Italian treasures are being cared
for in France much better than they would be in my own country.
It's just disappointing to see 'em spreaded all around the world, 'cos it
makes me think we're a bunch of idiots.
In any case, art is a treasure for the whole mankind, not only for France or
Italy, and fortunately such concepts as borderlines, states, nations and so
on are becoming more and more meaningless.
I recently had the pleasure to come to Paris on a business trip; I
fortunately managed to take a half day off and went to the Musée d'Orsay.
They had to kick me out before closing...

Ciao

Fabio

"François Yves Le Gal" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 09:57:25 GMT, "Fabio Berutti"
wrote:

just like the Gioconda is the one the French stole us
and placed in the Louvre

La Joconde was not stolen from Italy: it was bought by François 1er, then
King of France and protector of de Vinci.

De Vinci brought it to Clos Lucé, where François 1er lodged him and took
care of him, together with two other paintings "Sainte Anne" and "Saint
Jean
Baptiste".

This is absolutely true, generally speaking, but some countries managed to
defend themselves and their heritage a little better. I suppose that "la
Liberté en conduisant le peuple" (la première Marianne, avant de C.Deneuve
et L.Casta, celle de M.Delacroix) is going to stay at the Louvre for the
rest of times, or at least it would take the 3rd WW to take it away from
there, which is not due in the near futu now les Boches are France's
closest friends, in the common EU environment.
Maybe it is not necessary to have such laws as Yours "exception culturelle"
or to call "ordinateur" and "logiciel" what the whole world calls "computer"
or "software", but some little pride (or at least some consciousness) of
one's own history, language and cultural heritage could reduce the worst
consequences (loss of "roots") of the present globalisation.
As far as Italy is concerned, we're probably going to sell the Coliseum to
the Coca Cola Company to reduce our public deficit.

A' bientot

Fabio


"François Yves Le Gal" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:46:32 GMT, "Fabio Berutti"
wrote:

If it were not a theft in this case, Napoleon 1er (just like all others
passing by with their armies, be them from Spain or from Germany or you
name
it) took away from Italy almost anything which had no roots.

The same happened all thru Europe - no, make it thru the world. What about
the Parthenon frieze and sculptures stolen by the Brits (and now to be
returned to Greece)?

Fabio Berutti wrote:

[...]

As far as Italy is concerned, we're probably going to sell the Coliseum to
the Coca Cola Company to reduce our public deficit.

great! Are they going to feed muslims to lions or vice versa
under the eyes of Silvio Berlusconi & GWB then eventually?

Hi Francois,
On the other hand, look at how much of the Parthenon has been carted
away to make houses and other buildings or how much has rotted away from air
and water pollution. I'm not saying it was right, but at least the Brits
cherish it for what it is (ART) and house them in a museum. keithw...


"François Yves Le Gal" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:46:32 GMT, "Fabio Berutti"
wrote:

If it were not a theft in this case, Napoleon 1er (just like all others
passing by with their armies, be them from Spain or from Germany or you
name
it) took away from Italy almost anything which had no roots.

The same happened all thru Europe - no, make it thru the world. What about
the Parthenon frieze and sculptures stolen by the Brits (and now to be
returned to Greece)?

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 22:48:48 +0000, arizona cowboy wrote:
I am sorry, folks, but I think what new sensor is doing should be a crime,
they take these crappy Reflektor-made "Sovtek" tubes and rebrand them as
Svetlana, Mullard, Tung-Sol, etc.


The guy who sold the names to Mike was Eddie Richardson, the
world's biggest tube dealer. You probably never heard of Eddie,
'cause the tubes Eddie likes to sell cost thousands of dollars,
if you're a BE for a TV or FM station, or you buy lots of
CRT's, or you deal in microwave tubes, you know who Richardson is.
Any rate, he was smart enough to snap the names up when most
people (including you) didn't think they were worth anything, and
in fact he's probably lucky to get anything near what
he coughed up to get them.

It dilutes these great brand names and creates mass confusion among tube
music lovers.

You mean, like Fisher, Scott, Sherwood & Marantz? Hardly anyone said
diddley when those US brand names were shipped overseas.


They ran Svetlana USA out of business,

In fact, the US Svetlana people trashed themselves. They had
a gimme business, peddling transmitter tubes that cost hundreds
or thousands of dollars apiece, and their only real competition
was Eimac, whose tubes cost a lot more. They'd have to be real
idiots to blow a deal like that. Eimac, of course, is still
in business.

Could someone put this Electro Harmonix bozo out of his misery,

'scuse me. If YOU had the money to buy up those brand names,
I got 20 bucks that says you would, too.

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Ned Carlson Triode Electronics Chicago,IL USA
www.triodeelectronics.com