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Hi RATs!
So, I just found out I can use my big old NOS WE Thyratron as a HV B+ switch. Just use a 9V battery to negative bias the screen to shut off HV while the MVs warm up, then, switch off the battery and Kapow! or, it turns on the HV. I buy stuff at swap meets that looks cool. Sometimes I even use it for something besides dust collection Today my Bing Crosby P-P 6BM8 amp arrived. Ear life is good life. Happy Ears! Al |
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Thyratron was used in Radars for generating HV pulses to the Magnatron. They
are rather cool as they have gold plated Anode top cap. It has blue glows when it is running. Johnny egroups.com... Hi RATs! So, I just found out I can use my big old NOS WE Thyratron as a HV B+ switch. Just use a 9V battery to negative bias the screen to shut off HV while the MVs warm up, then, switch off the battery and Kapow! or, it turns on the HV. I buy stuff at swap meets that looks cool. Sometimes I even use it for something besides dust collection Today my Bing Crosby P-P 6BM8 amp arrived. Ear life is good life. Happy Ears! Al |
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"Bret Ludwig" said:
What's even cooler is this new invention called a "switch". Takes no heater power and doesn't put out a pile of hash as gas filled tobes inevitably do. But Al probably thinks the mysterious raised noise floor sounds MUUUUUUSICAL. The dumbass. Geez Brat, didn't you find some Scott or Dyna iron in your favourite dumpster today? Why don't you try Magnequest? ;-) -- "Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks." |
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Hi Al
What is the ballpark voltage drop across it? (forward biased, of course). Thanks Bob H. wrote: Hi RATs! So, I just found out I can use my big old NOS WE Thyratron as a HV B+ switch. Just use a 9V battery to negative bias the screen to shut off HV while the MVs warm up, then, switch off the battery and Kapow! or, it turns on the HV. I buy stuff at swap meets that looks cool. Sometimes I even use it for something besides dust collection Today my Bing Crosby P-P 6BM8 amp arrived. Ear life is good life. Happy Ears! Al |
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Bob H. wrote: Hi Al What is the ballpark voltage drop across it? (forward biased, of course). Thanks Bob H. Hi Bob, I haven't tried it yet. I was just happy to find a use for it. It's been on my night table for years. I had used a switch on the primary separate B+ transformer, before, to allow all the MVs to warm up. They haven't been in circuit for years, neither. They stand upright in the back corner of my closet, waiting to be called to fight terrorism in any form, or, at least block some AC ... I got an old Lambda power supply for the filaments of the 866A. They drop about 15V. I have no clue about the Thyratron drop. I had never seen a Thyratron mentioned for audio application. I was a radio repairman in the army. No radar experience. Happy Ears! Al |
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"Johnny Tang" wrote in message news:txMFg.435139$IK3.14893@pd7tw1no... Thyratron was used in Radars for generating HV pulses to the Magnatron. They are rather cool as they have gold plated Anode top cap. It has blue glows when it is running. Johnny I remember the Thyratron from earlyish marine radars, you could actuary hear it 'singing' along to the prf (pulse repetition frequency) but as a DC switch it would be quiet I guess. The blue glow indicates early Chav radar ;-) Another was the Triggertron, which sparked between electrodes to ionise the gas, now that did sing very loudly and had a plastic type mesh surrounding the glass envelope incase of implosion. I can't find out much googling Triggertrons, anyone got a link? Mike |
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Mike Gilmour wrote:
I can't find out much googling Triggertrons, anyone got a link? Mike http://www.tubecollector.org/trigatron.htm Bob Weiss N2IXK |
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"Bob Weiss" wrote in message news:cR6Gg.19458$uV.3557@trnddc08... Mike Gilmour wrote: I can't find out much googling Triggertrons, anyone got a link? Mike http://www.tubecollector.org/trigatron.htm Bob Weiss N2IXK Thanks Bob - thats it. The quoted life does seem very short. During that time (60's) the Shell owned ships that I maintained radars on, two sets were generally left running H24 & only switched off in port & I can't remember replacing trigertrons that frequently - that said, marine radars were then high maintenence with reliability consistent with being almost totally valve based and operating conditions under vibration and tropical heat. Having dozens of valves in each set maybe the trigertrons were changed more frequently than I can remember. Mike |
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Mike Gilmour wrote: "Bob Weiss" wrote in message news:cR6Gg.19458$uV.3557@trnddc08... Mike Gilmour wrote: I can't find out much googling Triggertrons, anyone got a link? Mike http://www.tubecollector.org/trigatron.htm Bob Weiss N2IXK Thanks Bob - thats it. The quoted life does seem very short. During that time (60's) the Shell owned ships that I maintained radars on, two sets were generally left running H24 & only switched off in port & I can't remember replacing trigertrons that frequently - that said, marine radars were then high maintenence with reliability consistent with being almost totally valve based and operating conditions under vibration and tropical heat. Having dozens of valves in each set maybe the trigertrons were changed more frequently than I can remember. Mike Hi RATs! Tubes got tested a lot in Viet Nam. Tropical heat, vibration, and Army Regs required they be pulled and tested a lot. The testing procedure itself was often the cause of failure. The most common failure mode was keying the transmitter with the antenna not attached I had worked at Univac in Saint Paul before getting drafted. The tubes used in early computers failed very rarely. Less vibration, A few hours of tropical heat per decade and nobody pulling them until their little dedicated failure light bulb lit was easy duty. I suppose some Gung Ho management moron may have ordered them tested occasionally, but, nothing can save those fools from themselves Happy Ears! Al |
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wrote in message oups.com... Mike Gilmour wrote: "Bob Weiss" wrote in message news:cR6Gg.19458$uV.3557@trnddc08... Mike Gilmour wrote: I can't find out much googling Triggertrons, anyone got a link? Mike http://www.tubecollector.org/trigatron.htm Bob Weiss N2IXK Thanks Bob - thats it. The quoted life does seem very short. During that time (60's) the Shell owned ships that I maintained radars on, two sets were generally left running H24 & only switched off in port & I can't remember replacing trigertrons that frequently - that said, marine radars were then high maintenence with reliability consistent with being almost totally valve based and operating conditions under vibration and tropical heat. Having dozens of valves in each set maybe the trigertrons were changed more frequently than I can remember. Mike Hi RATs! Tubes got tested a lot in Viet Nam. Tropical heat, vibration, and Army Regs required they be pulled and tested a lot. The testing procedure itself was often the cause of failure. The most common failure mode was keying the transmitter with the antenna not attached I had worked at Univac in Saint Paul before getting drafted. The tubes used in early computers failed very rarely. Less vibration, A few hours of tropical heat per decade and nobody pulling them until their little dedicated failure light bulb lit was easy duty. I suppose some Gung Ho management moron may have ordered them tested occasionally, but, nothing can save those fools from themselves Happy Ears! Al Agreed, valves don't being pulled and tested a lot. Equipment with built in valve metering allowed valves to perform continuous duty and always lasted a lot longer. Many years on some less stressed applications like communal amplifiers and built in crew PA. It was a regular part of the job to log valve readings ...lots of them. Mike |