Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yep, it can be done. I researched it on google last year
but have yet to get around to building the speaker boxes.

Do a search for "piano paint finish" and browse the
results.
Here is a link to start with:

http://www.pianoworld.com/howdoi.htm



"flint" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a
book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yep, it can be done. I researched it on google last year
but have yet to get around to building the speaker boxes.

Do a search for "piano paint finish" and browse the
results.
Here is a link to start with:

http://www.pianoworld.com/howdoi.htm



"flint" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a
book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

Yep, it can be done. I researched it on google last year
but have yet to get around to building the speaker boxes.

Do a search for "piano paint finish" and browse the
results.
Here is a link to start with:

http://www.pianoworld.com/howdoi.htm



"flint" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a
book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway

While crossposting to rec.audio.pro and rec.audio.tech, "flint"
wrote:

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

ISTR pianos are usually finished using the technique called "French
polish" - google for that and you should get info.
If you want good, reliable info, there are surely wood finishing
books that cover this technique.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway






-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

While crossposting to rec.audio.pro and rec.audio.tech, "flint"
wrote:

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

ISTR pianos are usually finished using the technique called "French
polish" - google for that and you should get info.
If you want good, reliable info, there are surely wood finishing
books that cover this technique.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway






-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

While crossposting to rec.audio.pro and rec.audio.tech, "flint"
wrote:

Yes, I know how.

Yes, any amateur can do it with the right materials and lots of patience.

It will take too long to write is all down here, so I suggest buying a book
on lacquering and study it. This is not rocket science, just a slow &
careful process.

ISTR pianos are usually finished using the technique called "French
polish" - google for that and you should get info.
If you want good, reliable info, there are surely wood finishing
books that cover this technique.

- FLINT

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

Regards,
Bjørn Stensrud
Norway






-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
Anyone can do this given enough care and patience and there are numerous
effective, but alternative methods. It also helps to have a spray set
up and a machine for buffing.

You can get a similar finish with finishes other than traditional
lacquer. (lacquer can either poson you or blow you up if yo don't take
a few precautions).There are numerous waterborne lacquers that can be
applied and give you superb results. You can even brush it on (as
opposed to spraying) if you are patient. Principally, you will have to
smooth between couts and "rub-out" the final finish. Traditionally, the
topcoat would be rubbed out with pumice and then rottenstone and oil.
Automotive compounds, are easier to use and mayy woodworkers use them
with a high degree of success.

There are several experts who hang out at rec.woodworking who can give
you much more information or you can hop over to Jeff Jewitt's website
www.homesteadfinishing.com both for the forum's there and for the supplies.

You should probably start with a good book and Jeff's "Great Wood
Finishes"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
is one of the better ones. You can also take a look at Michael
Dresdner's New Wood Finishing Book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
and Bob Flexner's Understanding Wood Finishes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...e&s=books&st=*

Terry Ilardi

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
Anyone can do this given enough care and patience and there are numerous
effective, but alternative methods. It also helps to have a spray set
up and a machine for buffing.

You can get a similar finish with finishes other than traditional
lacquer. (lacquer can either poson you or blow you up if yo don't take
a few precautions).There are numerous waterborne lacquers that can be
applied and give you superb results. You can even brush it on (as
opposed to spraying) if you are patient. Principally, you will have to
smooth between couts and "rub-out" the final finish. Traditionally, the
topcoat would be rubbed out with pumice and then rottenstone and oil.
Automotive compounds, are easier to use and mayy woodworkers use them
with a high degree of success.

There are several experts who hang out at rec.woodworking who can give
you much more information or you can hop over to Jeff Jewitt's website
www.homesteadfinishing.com both for the forum's there and for the supplies.

You should probably start with a good book and Jeff's "Great Wood
Finishes"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
is one of the better ones. You can also take a look at Michael
Dresdner's New Wood Finishing Book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
and Bob Flexner's Understanding Wood Finishes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...e&s=books&st=*

Terry Ilardi

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

You might ask your local auto body place if they are equipped to do it.
--scott
Anyone can do this given enough care and patience and there are numerous
effective, but alternative methods. It also helps to have a spray set
up and a machine for buffing.

You can get a similar finish with finishes other than traditional
lacquer. (lacquer can either poson you or blow you up if yo don't take
a few precautions).There are numerous waterborne lacquers that can be
applied and give you superb results. You can even brush it on (as
opposed to spraying) if you are patient. Principally, you will have to
smooth between couts and "rub-out" the final finish. Traditionally, the
topcoat would be rubbed out with pumice and then rottenstone and oil.
Automotive compounds, are easier to use and mayy woodworkers use them
with a high degree of success.

There are several experts who hang out at rec.woodworking who can give
you much more information or you can hop over to Jeff Jewitt's website
www.homesteadfinishing.com both for the forum's there and for the supplies.

You should probably start with a good book and Jeff's "Great Wood
Finishes"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
is one of the better ones. You can also take a look at Michael
Dresdner's New Wood Finishing Book
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
and Bob Flexner's Understanding Wood Finishes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...e&s=books&st=*

Terry Ilardi

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ...
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

If you're talking Yamaha 'shiny' finish - this is generally a
polyurethane finish, which can be very difficult to make look right
for an 'amateur'.

If you mean a Steinway 'satin' finish, this is typically laquered, as
mentioned in other posts. Difficult, but not impossible for an
'ameteur'. Paste wood filler and laquer sanding sealer can be used to
fill in grain. Sanding between coats is essential, as mentioned in
other posts. A coat of primer (for black or white), 2-3 coats of
sanding sealer, and 3-4 coats of finishing laquer will get you there.
Again, sanding with finer and finer grit between coats (start with 220
grit and work your way to 400-600 grit, and finally fine steel wool,
polishing compound, and paste wax).

This is general, of course, but maybe it will get you started. The
suggestion for finding a book on laquering is a good one. Or you
might talk to a local piano refinisher/rebuilder...

PS

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ...
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

If you're talking Yamaha 'shiny' finish - this is generally a
polyurethane finish, which can be very difficult to make look right
for an 'amateur'.

If you mean a Steinway 'satin' finish, this is typically laquered, as
mentioned in other posts. Difficult, but not impossible for an
'ameteur'. Paste wood filler and laquer sanding sealer can be used to
fill in grain. Sanding between coats is essential, as mentioned in
other posts. A coat of primer (for black or white), 2-3 coats of
sanding sealer, and 3-4 coats of finishing laquer will get you there.
Again, sanding with finer and finer grit between coats (start with 220
grit and work your way to 400-600 grit, and finally fine steel wool,
polishing compound, and paste wax).

This is general, of course, but maybe it will get you started. The
suggestion for finding a book on laquering is a good one. Or you
might talk to a local piano refinisher/rebuilder...

PS

(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ...
Bjørn Stensrud wrote:

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?

It's just standard lacquer... but it's lots and lots of coats of lacquer,
in a VERY clean environment. Every time I have tried to shoot lacquer here,
I have always wound up with one or two little specks of dust making a splotch
in the finish here and there, even on small pieces.

If you're talking Yamaha 'shiny' finish - this is generally a
polyurethane finish, which can be very difficult to make look right
for an 'amateur'.

If you mean a Steinway 'satin' finish, this is typically laquered, as
mentioned in other posts. Difficult, but not impossible for an
'ameteur'. Paste wood filler and laquer sanding sealer can be used to
fill in grain. Sanding between coats is essential, as mentioned in
other posts. A coat of primer (for black or white), 2-3 coats of
sanding sealer, and 3-4 coats of finishing laquer will get you there.
Again, sanding with finer and finer grit between coats (start with 220
grit and work your way to 400-600 grit, and finally fine steel wool,
polishing compound, and paste wax).

This is general, of course, but maybe it will get you started. The
suggestion for finding a book on laquering is a good one. Or you
might talk to a local piano refinisher/rebuilder...

PS

Thanks alot for your input guys, you certainly have given me alot
to dig into, the response has been overwhelming! I will do some
more research and try to get some advice on good products to buy
from a spescialist paint store I've seen not far from here.

Certainly will present you with the results, good or bad ;-)

Thanks,
Bjørn

Thanks alot for your input guys, you certainly have given me alot
to dig into, the response has been overwhelming! I will do some
more research and try to get some advice on good products to buy
from a spescialist paint store I've seen not far from here.

Certainly will present you with the results, good or bad ;-)

Thanks,
Bjørn

Thanks alot for your input guys, you certainly have given me alot
to dig into, the response has been overwhelming! I will do some
more research and try to get some advice on good products to buy
from a spescialist paint store I've seen not far from here.

Certainly will present you with the results, good or bad ;-)

Thanks,
Bjørn

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


Google for 'french polish'


geoff

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


Google for 'french polish'


geoff

"Bjørn Stensrud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Anyone who knows the process to make piano paint finish yourself on DIY
speakers?
Is it possible at all for an "amateur"?


Google for 'french polish'


geoff