Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#1
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Google has a few messages dribbling in to this newsgroup but Verizon
hasn't had any new ones in more than a day. Maybe they dropped it and didn't tell me. You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. -- If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) |
#2
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 25, 11:45 am, Mike Rivers wrote:
You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. |
#3
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote...
Mike Rivers wrote: You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. Can we listen in? :-) |
#4
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 25, 8:52*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
On Sep 25, 11:45 am, Mike Rivers wrote: You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. Don't feel bad Mike, we all do that these days given the collective demise of useful content, or what passes for it, in the general populace. Hope to see you at AES SF. bobs Bob Smith BS Studios / SoundSmith Labs we organize chaos |
#5
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:19:29 -0400, Richard Crowley wrote
(in article ): "Mike Rivers" wrote... Mike Rivers wrote: You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. Can we listen in? :-) what are you wearing? Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWaPRHMGhGA |
#6
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Ty Ford" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote "Mike Rivers" wrote... Mike Rivers wrote: You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. Can we listen in? :-) what are you wearing? I'll assume you are asking Mike and not me. :-)) |
#7
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:19:29 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote: "Mike Rivers" wrote... Well, it seems that at least I can talk to myself. Can we listen in? :-) Yeah, when you get right down to it, Mike Rivers talking to himself is more interesting than most anything else on the Usenet on an average evening, which is saying something. Tonight, of course, is the season opener of "Survivor" back in the Real World, so all bets are hedged. Actually, as a huge fan of "Survivor" I just watched it - so my bet goes to M.R. It's been that kind of year. This could even be a Good Thing... Much thanks, as always, Chris Hornbeck |
#8
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On 25/09/08 17:45, in article , "Mike
Rivers" wrote: Google has a few messages dribbling in to this newsgroup but Verizon hasn't had any new ones in more than a day. Maybe they dropped it and didn't tell me. You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. FIY: I counted 63 posts on Friday, 45 on Thursday and 52 on Wednesday. -- Joe Kotroczo |
#9
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 3:03 am, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
FIY: I counted 63 posts on Friday, 45 on Thursday and 52 on Wednesday. That actually isn't very many for this newsgroup, particularly when you subtract the ones about watches and shoes. I usually check in about 4 times a day, and up until fairly recently (last couple of weeks or so) there's usually 30 or so new posts each time, for a total of 100 or more a day. And a couple of years ago, rec.audio.pro was more active than that with more posts that were actually relevant to the subject. I suspect that the number of ISPs that are dropping newsgroup support, followed on by people like me who don't want to pay yet another monthly subscription fee for a "reliable" news feed, are having a definite impact on the amount of relevant traffic here. What's curious is that I get e-mail now and then from people who start with "I read your post on ....... (some forum I've never heard of and know I've never posted to)" and quote something that I remember posting, usually quite some time ago. When they say "I read your post on Google" I know that they're probably talking about the Google Usenet archive of rec.audio.pro, but there are apparently other forums that are capturing and reposting messages from here. I guess there's nothing wrong with it. I haven't figured out how to make money from my posts in rec.audio.pro so I don't feel like I'm losing income from copying. But it would be nice if there was still a reliable "go to" place, and the stars seem to be winking out. |
#10
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On 27/09/08 11:44, in article
, "Mike Rivers" wrote: On Sep 27, 3:03 am, Joe Kotroczo wrote: FIY: I counted 63 posts on Friday, 45 on Thursday and 52 on Wednesday. That actually isn't very many for this newsgroup, particularly when you subtract the ones about watches and shoes. I don't get ANY posts about watches and shoes in rec.audio.pro. The spam filtering alone is well worth the 10 Euro per year I pay individual.net -- Joe Kotroczo |
#11
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 6:02 am, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
I don't get ANY posts about watches and shoes in rec.audio.pro. The spam filtering alone is well worth the 10 Euro per year I pay individual.net Maybe it just doesn't like me. I tried setting up a free read-only account to see what news.individual.net got me. I saw essentially the same posts in rec.audio.pro for the last two days as I do in Google. I'm sure they're legitimate, but I'm not confident with their methods of payment. I don't use PayPal and and I don't want to do a bank transfer. So far, no sale. I'll stick with what I get for free even if it means things aren't as active as they used to be. I guess they just aren't. |
#12
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote ...
Joe Kotroczo wrote: I don't get ANY posts about watches and shoes in rec.audio.pro. The spam filtering alone is well worth the 10 Euro per year I pay individual.net Maybe it just doesn't like me. I tried setting up a free read-only account to see what news.individual.net got me. I saw essentially the same posts in rec.audio.pro for the last two days as I do in Google. I'm sure they're legitimate, but I'm not confident with their methods of payment. I don't use PayPal and and I don't want to do a bank transfer. So far, no sale. I'll stick with what I get for free even if it means things aren't as active as they used to be. I guess they just aren't. They use a legitimate service called "Click and Buy" to process credit/debit card payments. I've never had any problem with them. They seem as trustworthy as any other online merchant. They appear to do a 99% effective filter of those watch, shoe, handbag spam, etc. Now if they could only filter out the history revisionists, racists, and other sociopaths. |
#13
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
|
#14
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Richard Webb wrote ...
I"m sure that somebody's capturing them to web sites and not admitting where they come from but calling the content from r.a.p. their "forum. Rather bogus if you ask me. OF course they don't tell people they're capturing a usenet newsgroup. Yes, there seem to be several. Of course, Google is the most notorious. |
#15
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 10:58 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
Richard Webb wrote ... I"m sure that somebody's capturing them to web sites and not admitting where they come from but calling the content from r.a.p. their "forum. Rather bogus if you ask me. OF course they don't tell people they're capturing a usenet newsgroup. Yes, there seem to be several. Of course, Google is the most notorious. I wouldn't consider Google "notorious" for this (maybe for other things). They make a point of being a Usenet archive (they took it over from whatsisname) and I think it's a useful service. When AOL used to carry newsgroups, they kept articles longer than just about anyone else. I'd often get mail about my posts from 5 or more years ago, usually about something I no longer care about or remember. |
#16
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Mike Rivers wrote:
Maybe it just doesn't like me. I tried setting up a free read-only account to see what news.individual.net got me. I saw essentially the same posts in rec.audio.pro for the last two days as I do in Google. I use news.astraweb.com just like Graham, wanted to have an account that wasn't tied to my isp. A 10 GB bucket of text based news goes a long way ...... Kind regards Peter Larsen |
#17
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
wrote:
I"m sure that somebody's capturing them to web sites and not admitting where they come from but calling the content from r.a.p. their "forum. Rather bogus if you ask me. OF course they don't tell people they're capturing a usenet newsgroup. There are quite a few of those bogus sites. They use r.a.p. content to try to get some ad money at their site. It's total bull**** , if you ask me, but ain't nobody gonna ask me. -- ha Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam |
#18
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote ...
"Richard Crowley" wrote: Richard Webb wrote ... I"m sure that somebody's capturing them to web sites and not admitting where they come from but calling the content from r.a.p. their "forum. Rather bogus if you ask me. OF course they don't tell people they're capturing a usenet newsgroup. Yes, there seem to be several. Of course, Google is the most notorious. I wouldn't consider Google "notorious" for this (maybe for other things). Notorious in the sense that they are the #1 source of Usenet garbage known today. Notorious in the sense of opening Usenet up to clueless web browsers who don't know (or care) about any of the Usenet conventions that have kept it alive and healthy for decades. Notorious in the sense that they seem to deliberately mislead newbies into thinking they are using something called "Google Groups". Etc. etc etc. |
#19
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 2:36 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
Notorious in the sense that they are the #1 source of Usenet garbage known today. Notorious in the sense of opening Usenet up to clueless web browsers who don't know (or care) about any of the Usenet conventions that have kept it alive and healthy for decades. I don't see a lot of that here. Maybe on other newsgroups, but this is the only one I read. We have plenty of clueless web browsers dropping by here who aren't posting from Google. |
#20
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
In article ,
Mike Rivers wrote: On Sep 27, 2:36 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote: Notorious in the sense that they are the #1 source of Usenet garbage known today. Notorious in the sense of opening Usenet up to clueless web browsers who don't know (or care) about any of the Usenet conventions that have kept it alive and healthy for decades. I don't see a lot of that here. Maybe on other newsgroups, but this is the only one I read. We have plenty of clueless web browsers dropping by here who aren't posting from Google. It is a severe problem on most of the net, Mike. It's not so bad here, but for the most part if you see obvious spam or ads on Usenet, the good chance is that it comes from Google. The spam companies have automated scripts to hit the google servers with this stuff. What is worse is that in many cases Google encourages it; somehow the Blogspot.com service which is owned by Google has some sort of button you can push to automatically post to Usenet about your new blog. Worst part is that blogspot.com has no valid abuse address so you can't even complain about it. It's no wonder that a lot of backbone sites just dump all traffic from google without even bothering to inspect it. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
#22
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 4:59 pm, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
Legitimate? They belong to the IT department of the Free University of Berlin. Which is a public institution, and as such non-profit and accountable to the State Audit Office... ;-) In that case, why are they charging for the service? Sounds like a pretty public thing to me. Or are they only charging those outside of Germany? |
#23
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote ...
Joe Kotroczo wrote: Legitimate? They belong to the IT department of the Free University of Berlin. Which is a public institution, and as such non-profit and accountable to the State Audit Office... ;-) In that case, why are they charging for the service? Sounds like a pretty public thing to me. Or are they only charging those outside of Germany? 10 Euro per year isn't much of a "charge" IMHO. You waste more than that in a year on food going bad in your refrigerator or any number of other things you don't give a second thought. Their administration likely told them that if they wanted to offer Usenet service to all comers, they had to at least make it self- supporting. I've got no problem with what they're doing. |
#24
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 7:00 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
Their administration likely told them that if they wanted to offer Usenet service to all comers, they had to at least make it self- supporting. I've got no problem with what they're doing. I have no problem with it either. I have a problem with what's supposed to be included in the $20/month I pay for Internet access through Verizon not working. Since I'm not paying (directly) for rec.audio.pro now, and since there's no chance of getting Verizon's news feed fixed except at their own lazy pace (there's not even anyone you can talk to about it, and you can't e-mail them about Internet problems), I'm content to use Google. It gets me the same thing for free as I'd have to pay for somewhere else. I don't get upset over spam. I recognize it and simply skip over it. If I read a lot of newsgroups, or newsgroups that were heavily spammed, I might feel different about it. I certainly don't endorse spammers and I wish they'd all get a real job, but I'm not going to spend my money to not show me something that I can easily ignore. By the way, Virginia, my state, had an anti-spam law on the books, but it was recently declared unconstitutional. So it's legal to spam Virginians again. |
#25
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote ...
By the way, Virginia, my state, had an anti-spam law on the books, but it was recently declared unconstitutional. So it's legal to spam Virginians again. I'm shocked they thought they could thwart free speech like that. Shocked, I say. |
#26
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Mike Rivers wrote:
On Sep 27, 4:59 pm, Joe Kotroczo wrote: Legitimate? They belong to the IT department of the Free University of Berlin. Which is a public institution, and as such non-profit and accountable to the State Audit Office... ;-) In that case, why are they charging for the service? Sounds like a pretty public thing to me. Or are they only charging those outside of Germany? They offered the service for free for a long time. Eventually the cost of supporting the servers became too much to bear, rationally. So I pay 10 Euros/yr. and get great service. It's not as if I'm a student there. -- ha Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam |
#27
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Mike Rivers wrote:
I have no problem with it either. I have a problem with what's supposed to be included in the $20/month I pay for Internet access through Verizon not working. Since I'm not paying (directly) for rec.audio.pro now, and since there's no chance of getting Verizon's news feed fixed except at their own lazy pace (there's not even anyone you can talk to about it, and you can't e-mail them about Internet problems), I'm content to use Google. It gets me the same thing for free as I'd have to pay for somewhere else. $20 a month? You are one funny guy. Letterman's comments about McCain come to mind. John McCain is the guy... |
#28
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
|
#29
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On 27/09/08 23:46, in article
, "Mike Rivers" wrote: On Sep 27, 4:59 pm, Joe Kotroczo wrote: Legitimate? They belong to the IT department of the Free University of Berlin. Which is a public institution, and as such non-profit and accountable to the State Audit Office... ;-) In that case, why are they charging for the service? Sounds like a pretty public thing to me. Or are they only charging those outside of Germany? They are charging those that are not students there. Just to cover the costs. More background info can be found he http://news.individual.net/commercial.php -- Joe Kotroczo |
#30
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:24:17 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote: By the way, Virginia, my state, had an anti-spam law on the books, but it was recently declared unconstitutional. So it's legal to spam Virginians again. I'm shocked they thought they could thwart free speech like that. Shocked, I say. I'd like to see the definition of "spam" they used. It's difficult to come up with anything better than "a message I don't wish to receive", which is obviously a bad basis for legislation. |
#31
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Laurence Payne wrote: I'd like to see the definition of "spam" they used. It's difficult to come up with anything better than "a message I don't wish to receive", which is obviously a bad basis for legislation. Essentially that. I'm sure there was a legal definition (I didn't read the law), but the argument was that it was restricting freedom of speech. I always have the option of not reading it, but the Constitution allows them the right to write and (as an extension of standing on a soap box in the Olde Towne Square) disseminate it to others within shouting range. What really needs to be redefined in the digital age is just what "speech" is, and who's within hearing range. The real problem with an anti-spam law is that it's so difficult to catch the violator. It's not trivial to look at an e-mail message and find the door to knock on to take the perpetrator away in handcuffs. This is why spamming is so successful. These days I receive about five copies of the same ad for Gevalia coffee daily in my Yahoo Spam folder. Each one appears to be coming from a different source, and it may very well be - as a result of a worm planted in an unprotected user's computer. I always look at what's in that Spam folder because occasionally a legitimate message goes in there by misinterpretataion. But it takes only seconds to glance through it to see if there's anything legitimate that I should read (around trade show time, I guess some press releases have some of the characteristics of spam that the Yahoo filter looks at), and with a couple of mouse clicks, the folder is empty and ready to receive more spam. I can handle it. I wish I didn't have to, but it's not a great burden. I wouldn't pay more money and take the risk that something I actually should read got filtered out. Humans are best at that, and each one of us makes our own best filter. |
#32
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 27, 10:48 pm, Lucky wrote:
$20a month? You are one funny guy. Letterman's comments about McCain come to mind. John McCain is the guy... Sorry, that one went right by me. Would you care to explain? Are you suggesting that I'm paying too much for my Internet access? Or that I'm not paying enough and that I'm getting what i paid for? It was $15/ month until just a few months ago. Not video speed by any means (864/160kbs download/upload) but it's enough to get mail and news, browse web sites, submit articles, listen to the radio. What more could anyone want? Heck, Al Gore wanted to give us all the Internet for free. |
#33
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Mike Rivers" wrote...
Sorry, that one went right by me. Would you care to explain? Are you suggesting that I'm paying too much for my Internet access? Or that I'm not paying enough and that I'm getting what i paid for? It was $15/ month until just a few months ago. Not video speed by any means (864/160kbs download/upload) but it's enough to get mail and news, browse web sites, submit articles, listen to the radio. What more could anyone want? $20/mo is very remarkably cheap compared to rates for similar service in other parts of the country. I think you aren't aware of how well off you are. Rates in my part of the country are 2x-3x for similar service. Some people pay $20/mo just for Usenet. Heck, Al Gore wanted to give us all the Internet for free. Yeah, Algore and his socialist cronies want to "give" us everything for "free". Of course you know who ends up paying for it. OTOH, "Lucky" will have to explain the McCain references. |
#34
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Laurence Payne wrote:
I'd like to see the definition of "spam" they used. It's difficult to come up with anything better than "a message I don't wish to receive", which is obviously a bad basis for legislation. Spam is: 1. Sent in bulk 2. Unsolicited Some folks add a requirement to the definition that it be commercial and some people don't. Consequently mail admins have taken to using the acronyms UCE and UBE to denote unsolicited commercial email and unsolicited bulk email since they are more specific than the word "spam." --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
#35
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Richard Crowley wrote:
"Mike Rivers" wrote... Sorry, that one went right by me. Would you care to explain? Are you suggesting that I'm paying too much for my Internet access? Or that I'm not paying enough and that I'm getting what i paid for? It was $15/ month until just a few months ago. Not video speed by any means (864/160kbs download/upload) but it's enough to get mail and news, browse web sites, submit articles, listen to the radio. What more could anyone want? $20/mo is very remarkably cheap compared to rates for similar service in other parts of the country. I think you aren't aware of how well off you are. Rates in my part of the country are 2x-3x for similar service. Some people pay $20/mo just for Usenet. However, in Korea or Japan, $20/month gets you Ethernet-speed connections to the house. That's what happens when folks invest in new infrastructure.... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
#36
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Mike Rivers wrote: Google has a few messages dribbling in to this newsgroup but Verizon hasn't had any new ones in more than a day. Maybe they dropped it and didn't tell me. You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Sounds like you need a news provider that functions. Verizon would not appear to fit the bill. Graham |
#37
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 28, 11:20 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
$20/mo is very remarkably cheap compared to rates for similar service in other parts of the country. I think you aren't aware of how well off you are. Oh, I'm quite happy with what I'm getting for what I'm paying. I'd be happier if their repair service was more responsive, but since it's completely automated I don't expect it to understand human logic (like - the problem is intermittent. It's NOT OK if it works now. Try it when it doesn't work). When I was using AOL on dial-up, I had a separate phone line for that, and when DSL became available (initially it was $25/month) I saved about $15/month over AOL and the second phone line. Then it went down to $15/month for a couple of years. Now it's $20. I suppose that if I ever move to California things will be different. Nor am I complaining about having to get my news from Google when Verizon's news feed isn't working properly. Weekends aren't particularly good for gaging the activity of this group, but on a few spot checks, I've seen essentially no difference between new posts in Google's version of rec.audio.pro and individual.net's version. So I'll take free over $10 euros. Not that I don't trust a university with my money, just that I don't see the value of it right now. If someone isn't getting my replies because they've blocked posts originating from Google, it doesn't bother me. If it's important for me to contact them, I can do it directly via e-mail. I used to use my friend's system d-and-d.com for news when I was using AOL on dialup and for a while after I got DSL, but the service provider that he was using for quite some time dropped news feeds. He got one from giganews or supernews, but their agreement doesn't allow him to pass that along to anyone else. I could log into his system (and I still do, to check mail that goes to that account) and read news there (as a local user) but it's old fashioned Unix and I find it cumbersome. So I do what works for me. |
#38
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
On Sep 28, 11:53 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
However, in Korea or Japan, $20/month gets you Ethernet-speed connections to the house. That's what happens when folks invest in new infrastructure.... Last couple of times when Verizon seemed to have difficulty maintaining my POTS, I told them that if would be easier for them, they could replace it with fiber, but at the same rate I was paying. They politely declined my offer. I guess it's hard for them to understand that they could save money by giving away a more expensive service, but I suppose it's the principle of the thing. |
#39
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
Richard Crowley wrote: "Mike Rivers" wrote... Sorry, that one went right by me. Would you care to explain? Are you suggesting that I'm paying too much for my Internet access? Or that I'm not paying enough and that I'm getting what i paid for? It was $15/ month until just a few months ago. Not video speed by any means (864/160kbs download/upload) but it's enough to get mail and news, browse web sites, submit articles, listen to the radio. What more could anyone want? $20/mo is very remarkably cheap compared to rates for similar service in other parts of the country. I think you aren't aware of how well off you are. Rates in my part of the country are 2x-3x for similar service. Some people pay $20/mo just for Usenet. However, in Korea or Japan, $20/month gets you Ethernet-speed connections to the house. That's what happens when folks invest in new infrastructure.... And that's what happens when you can start half a century farther into the development of technology without an old infrastructure to deal with. And that is a lot easier when you have the entire economy of a country concentrated in the area of one of the smaller US states. Lots of "3rd world" places have more advanced technology simply because they are starting off with far advanced technology than Al Bell, et.al.. had available. Same as the NTSC vs. PAL effect. The people who come later to the party benefit from the learnings of the pioneers. The kid who always has the first new toy on the block always has the oldest toys. |
#40
Posted to rec.audio.pro
|
|||
|
|||
Anybody Home?
Eeyore wrote:
Mike Rivers wrote: Google has a few messages dribbling in to this newsgroup but Verizon hasn't had any new ones in more than a day. Maybe they dropped it and didn't tell me. You don't need to reply. I'm mostly just sending this to see if it gets rejected. Sounds like you need a news provider that functions. Verizon would not appear to fit the bill. Verizon consists of a lot of little pieces that don't talk to one another. Mike's service is provided by one organization that maintains the local loop, two more organizations that provide the network connectivity, then seperate organizations that provide DNS, news service, mail service, etc. When something goes wrong it is basically impossible to get the right people informed about the problem. I spent six hours on the phone with people in India who could only read scripts and ignored my request for a truck roll, until I finally wrote a letter to the office of the president and got someone from a special customer service group that specializes in disgruntled customers to call me, agree that there was a line problem, and get a truck out to fix it. I suggest that Mike do the same with regard to his news service problem. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
15%-40% off Most audio Video, mid fi - hi end, custom A/V, home automation, home theater, A/V furniture | Marketplace | |||
15% - 40% off Most audio Video, mid fi - hi end, custom A/V, home automation, home theater, wires cables accessories and a/v furniture | Marketplace | |||
It's over-We can all go home now | Pro Audio | |||
Dyn MW-190 Sub for Home App | Car Audio | |||
Sonus Faber Concerto ...Home or not to Home | Audio Opinions |