Go with the mackie.I have one and its a great mixer in its price range.


JMBELLEY wrote in message
om...
Hi!
I need to buy a new mixer for my home studio & I'm wondering what to
buy in the $1000-$2500 range. Someone offered me a MACKIE 32-8-2 for
$1500 though I know I could get a YAMAHA 01V for about $1000 on Ebay.

Are the pre-amps in the 01V as good as the ones found in the Mackie?
What about the EQ,s & the sound color? I'm already using 2 Yamaha DSP
factory's (02R software)to mix but I prefer to use a separated mixer
to mix.

I would appreciate your advice.
Thanks in advance!
JMB

Depending on the condition, $1500 for the Mackie is a good price. Make sure
the Faders are not tight and that each channel strip works correctly, and if
all sounds well, the Mackie would be my suggestion.
Ron Charles
"JMBELLEY" wrote in message
om...
Hi!
I need to buy a new mixer for my home studio & I'm wondering what to
buy in the $1000-$2500 range. Someone offered me a MACKIE 32-8-2 for
$1500 though I know I could get a YAMAHA 01V for about $1000 on Ebay.

Are the pre-amps in the 01V as good as the ones found in the Mackie?
What about the EQ,s & the sound color? I'm already using 2 Yamaha DSP
factory's (02R software)to mix but I prefer to use a separated mixer
to mix.

I would appreciate your advice.
Thanks in advance!
JMB

In article writes:

Are the pre-amps in the 01V as good as the ones found in the Mackie?

In what respect? Quality? Quantity? Sound degradation? All mic preamps
are different. The preamps in the Mackie 8-bus aren't their latest
(XDR) design, but they're reasonably clean and quiet, but not
"flattering." I don't care for the preamps in the Yamaha 02R (I hate
words like this, but I think they sound 'thin') and the 01V is even a
cheaper console, so I'd expect the same or less.

What about the EQ,s & the sound color?

The Yamaha is more adjustable, but the Mackie won't let you screw it
up as badly.

I would appreciate your advice.

Think of these things before you start worring about subtlties of
sound:

Inputs and outputs - quantity and configuration. Not having enough of
the right kind can mean it's difficult or impossible to do certain
setups. You might not need to do everything so you may be able to live
with certain limitations. You need to think about how your studio will
be set up.

Ease of use - I tried to help a friend who bought an 01V to use with
his DA-38. I was completely flummoxed with the routing for tracking
and monitoring, and he was far less capable than I. He ended up
returning it, buying a Mackie 1604VLZ-Pro, and has lived happily ever
after.




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I'm really Mike Rivers - )

(JMBELLEY) wrote in message . com...
Hi!
I need to buy a new mixer for my home studio & I'm wondering what to
buy in the $1000-$2500 range. Someone offered me a MACKIE 32-8-2 for
$1500 though I know I could get a YAMAHA 01V for about $1000 on Ebay.

Are the pre-amps in the 01V as good as the ones found in the Mackie?
What about the EQ,s & the sound color? I'm already using 2 Yamaha DSP
factory's (02R software)to mix but I prefer to use a separated mixer
to mix.

I would appreciate your advice.
Thanks in advance!
JMB
Kinda different animals. Like a New Mini compared to a Buick...sort
of. The yamaha is far smaller and has a lot less inputs, 12 I believe.
That Mackie is a lot of board for the money. Very impressive for
clients who are wowed by a bunch of knobs. Good deals can be had for
the Mackie 8 buss boards these days. 1604 VLZ pros all the time for
$750 or so. As Mike said here, Big learning curve on the Yamaha.
Mackie's easy. The mic pres sound fine. The automation and snapshots
are pretty cool on the Yammie. You might need something additional to
interface with your stuff digitally so you dont have to go through
more A/D or D/A. I think there's a new 96k O1V out. (contact Mike
Overlin at Yamaha since he's the tech guy for that stuff). Again you
can get a brand new Allen Heath for $1000 and have lots left over for
a mic pre or mic. Tascam digital isnt too bad. I worked on a
Soundcraft 328 digital board with the interfaces built in that was
easy and sounded great, but was a bit less substantial feeling than an
8 buss Mackie.
kelly

(Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:znr1058270124k@trad...

Think of these things before you start worring about subtlties of
sound:

Inputs and outputs - quantity and configuration. Not having enough of
the right kind can mean it's difficult or impossible to do certain
setups.

Not having enough of ANY kind can be frustrating if not a downright
obstacle to work. Gozintas and Gozouttas are the 1 area where More Is
Better. Always.

Ease of use - I tried to help a friend who bought an 01V to use with
his DA-38. I was completely flummoxed with the routing for tracking
and monitoring, and he was far less capable than I.

I never understood how experienced audio pros (such as yourself, Mike)
could get flummoxed by Yamaha's digital consoles. To me, an old analog
hound from way back, they all (even a ProMix01) still make so much
more sense than digital desks by Ramsa, Tascam, Soundcraft, or the
virtual consoles in nearly any DAW. You want to track & monitor on an
01V, you do it the same way you would on an MCI JH400: assign the "big
fader" to a Group (Bus) Output to print that input to tape, and put
the console status into Record Mode so that your Control Room Monitor
Output is being fed from the "small faders" (which in this case are
one of the AUX sends). You just have to remember to also assign the
Group (Bus) Output to one of those Omni gozouttas, and you have to
remember what page the Control Room Monitor Assignment is buried on.

And then you save it as a preset, called "Tracking".

But a Mackie 32*8 vs a Yamaha 01V? If I had majorly limited real
estate, or did a lot of jobs that required Instant Recall, the 01V is
a no-brainer. If I wanted to be able to route any signal to & from
nearly anywhere, the Mackie is the no-brainer. The problem is, very
few situations fall cleanly into 1 of those 2 camps; there's always
going to be some type of compromise.

In article writes:

I never understood how experienced audio pros (such as yourself, Mike)
could get flummoxed by Yamaha's digital consoles. To me, an old analog
hound from way back, they all (even a ProMix01) still make so much
more sense than digital desks by Ramsa, Tascam, Soundcraft, or the
virtual consoles in nearly any DAW.

They don't make as much sense as putting a cable into a jack, though.
You can always see that. The problem I had with this one was, I think,
in the terminology. But I couldn't make sense of the routing matrix.
Turned out that what I was trying to do (and I don't remember what it
was now, but it wasn't any more complicated than moving a patch cable)
couldn't be done.

You want to track & monitor on an
01V, you do it the same way you would on an MCI JH400: assign the "big
fader" to a Group (Bus) Output to print that input to tape, and put
the console status into Record Mode so that your Control Room Monitor
Output is being fed from the "small faders" (which in this case are
one of the AUX sends). You just have to remember to also assign the
Group (Bus) Output to one of those Omni gozouttas, and you have to
remember what page the Control Room Monitor Assignment is buried on.

That's where the problem lies. If you want to use one mic and move it
progressively from track to track, you need to find the right menu. I
guess you could assign it to all tracks, but then supposed you want to
do something else on another pass. Back to the menus.

But a Mackie 32*8 vs a Yamaha 01V? If I had majorly limited real
estate, or did a lot of jobs that required Instant Recall, the 01V is
a no-brainer.

That hasn't entered into the requirements yet (of course NOTHING has
entered into the requirments).

If I wanted to be able to route any signal to & from
nearly anywhere, the Mackie is the no-brainer.

This, to me, is a basic requirement of any control room setup. But
people have learned to work without it, so it's become less of a
"gotta have" feature to be built into a console or DAW program.

The problem is, very
few situations fall cleanly into 1 of those 2 camps; there's always
going to be some type of compromise.

And the way to deal with that problem is to be sure that you never
have to compromise. Personally I'd rather have the Mackie, (OK, I'd
REALLY rather have the API . . ) but I'm willing to make the room and
put in the wiring. But then some people would say that running a
signal within 100 feet of a Mackie is a compromise. And I suppose
there are some who would say the same about a Yamaha A/D converter,
though they aren't nearly as vocal as the Mackie bashers.



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I'm really Mike Rivers - )

(Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:znr1058308196k@trad...


They don't make as much sense as putting a cable into a jack, though.
You can always see that. The problem I had with this one was, I think,
in the terminology.

Oh yes, terminology. A lot of these newfangled mixers remind me of the
Steve Martin joke: "Those French, they've got a different word for
EVERYTHING!"