[cporro]

i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations are
fine, but i'd like to know if anyone knows a way to analyze things and
come up with a short list. or maybe a site that demos lots of mics on a
male voice.

could i take a look at a mic's freq response graph and then take a look
at a rms spectral screen shot (or whatever that thing is called) of my
voice. try to match the nasal peaks with dips in the mic? there are
other things i suppose... response to transients, pickup pattern...

thanks

[Mike Rivers]

cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice.

No mic will eliminate or significantly reduce the nasal sound. The
voice will alway sound the way it sounds. Get another voice if you
don't like that one. (even if it's yours)

could i take a look at a mic's freq response graph and then take a look
at a rms spectral screen shot (or whatever that thing is called) of my
voice. try to match the nasal peaks with dips in the mic?

Yes, if you could change it for every syllable and you have an accurate
enough equalizer and measurement system. It's really completely
impractical.

[Scott Dorsey]

cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations are
fine, but i'd like to know if anyone knows a way to analyze things and
come up with a short list. or maybe a site that demos lots of mics on a
male voice.

My short list starts with the Beyer M-500. To a lesser extent, a 421
can work on a nasal voice. The Beyer M-88 might be worth checking out too.

could i take a look at a mic's freq response graph and then take a look
at a rms spectral screen shot (or whatever that thing is called) of my
voice. try to match the nasal peaks with dips in the mic? there are
other things i suppose... response to transients, pickup pattern...

No. There's no shortcut. I'll say, though, that mikes with a big presence
peak are apt to help more than hurt.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Julian]

On 22 Oct 2006 14:04:26 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations are
fine,
No. There's no shortcut. I'll say, though, that mikes with a big presence
peak are apt to help more than hurt.
--scott

Would you say a nasal voice is heavy in the 500 - 1,000 Hz range?
therefore boosting 2 - 4 kHz is helpful?

Julian

[cporro]

another voice. wow, there really aren't any short cuts.

[Julian]

On 22 Oct 2006 15:34:40 -0700, "cporro" wrote:

another voice. wow, there really aren't any short cuts.

yeah I understand, but it ain't a perfect world.

[Mike Rivers]

Julian wrote:
On 22 Oct 2006 15:34:40 -0700, "cporro" wrote:
another voice. wow, there really aren't any short cuts.

yeah I understand, but it ain't a perfect world.

But there are more voices than microphones, and you usually don't have
to buy one first before you try it. g

The trick is to figure out what will solve the problem. If the voice is
just a little nasal but othewise pretty good, you can probably get it
usable with EQ. If you can get it almost there with EQ but think you
could do a little better, then maybe a different mic might be the right
answer. But if it's just a bad voice, there's no point in trying to fix
it with technology. Either make the song so that it takes advantage of
the characteristics of the singer (people don't not buy Bob Dylan
records because he sings like a dog with his leg caught in a barbed
wire fence), or find someone else to sing the song that gets the sound
and emotion that you want. It's no worse than hiring a studio musician
to play an instrument or a part you want to include that you or someone
in the band can't play.

But if it's a narration and you can't stand the voice, forget trying to
fix it. Replace it.

[Scott Dorsey]

Julian wrote:
On 22 Oct 2006 14:04:26 -0400, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations are
fine,
No. There's no shortcut. I'll say, though, that mikes with a big presence
peak are apt to help more than hurt.

Would you say a nasal voice is heavy in the 500 - 1,000 Hz range?
therefore boosting 2 - 4 kHz is helpful?

Maybe, but it's not that the boost (and it should be higher than 4 KC)
is helpful at dealing with the honk, it just isn't harmful and it does
make things more forward which is usually also important with a nasal
voice.

Seriously, try the M-500. It won't fix the honk, but it will make nasal
voices sound good. If you want to get rid of the honk, try a vocal coach.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[hank alrich]

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Julian wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations are
fine,
No. There's no shortcut. I'll say, though, that mikes with a big presence
peak are apt to help more than hurt.

Would you say a nasal voice is heavy in the 500 - 1,000 Hz range?
therefore boosting 2 - 4 kHz is helpful?

Maybe, but it's not that the boost (and it should be higher than 4 KC)
is helpful at dealing with the honk, it just isn't harmful and it does
make things more forward which is usually also important with a nasal
voice.

Seriously, try the M-500. It won't fix the honk, but it will make nasal
voices sound good. If you want to get rid of the honk, try a vocal coach.

Must second the suggestion to try the Beyer M500; it can be very helpful
with sone nasally sounding voices.

--
ha

[Julian]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:19:56 GMT, (hank alrich)
wrote:

Must second the suggestion to try the Beyer M500; it can be very helpful
with sone nasally sounding voices.

Just asking what it is about the mic that is helpful.

Julian

[Doc Weaver]

Scott Dorsey wrote:

could i take a look at a mic's freq response graph and then take a look
at a rms spectral screen shot (or whatever that thing is called) of my
voice. try to match the nasal peaks with dips in the mic? there are
other things i suppose... response to transients, pickup pattern...

No. There's no shortcut. I'll say, though, that mikes with a big presence
peak are apt to help more than hurt.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Agreed.
Things like distance, angle, amd mic settings can make the same mic
react good or bad for your situation. like I say all the time, "there
is no wrong way to set up a mic, if it works for that situation". Try
different mics, and try each one with different settings.

"Luke..... use your ears, Luke"

Doc Weaver

[Gutter Butt]

cporro wrote:
i'm looking for a vocal mic for a nasal male voice. recommendations
are
fine, but i'd like to know if anyone knows a way to analyze things
and
come up with a short list. or maybe a site that demos lots of mics
on a
male voice.

could i take a look at a mic's freq response graph and then take a
look
at a rms spectral screen shot (or whatever that thing is called) of
my
voice. try to match the nasal peaks with dips in the mic? there are
other things i suppose... response to transients, pickup pattern...

thanks

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