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J Gordon Holt?
Sommerwerck over in rmcr says Holt died Sunday. Can anyone confirm?
Stephen |
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@POPaustin.rr.com says... Sommerwerck over in rmcr says Holt died Sunday. Can anyone confirm? So far, nothing official. But I am seeing reports on a number of sites. |
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Soundhaspriority said: I wonder if any of his appearances were taped? You should ask Krooger that. |
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On Jul 20, 11:59*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
Sommerwerck over in rmcr says Holt died Sunday. Can anyone confirm? Gordon died on July 20: http://www.stereophile.com/news/j_gordon_holt/ We have gathered all of his writings that are available on-line in one place: http://www.stereophile.com/j_gordon_holt/ We will have an appreciation in the October issue of Stereophile, which goes to press net week. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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JA wrote:
We will have an appreciation in the October issue Lest we all get too misty-eyed, let me sum it up in one sentence: J. Gordon Holt had the sensibility and integrity to abandon the magazine he founded and seek refuge at The Absolute Sound rather than stick around and watch Stereophile sell its soul at the altar of corporate greed. Garage mechanic Larrry Archibald ran it into a ditch and left the wreckage in the hands of JA. A yearly subscription priced nearly the same as a single issue at the newsstand marks a cheapened product. |
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On Jul 26, 7:08*pm, "GeoSynch" wrote:
J. Gordon Holt had the sensibility and integrity to abandon the magazine he founded and seek refuge at The Absolute Sound rather than stick around and watch Stereophile sell its soul at the altar of corporate greed. No. Gordon resigned as a fulltime employee of Stereophile in August 1999 because he wanted the magazine to abandon coverage of 2-channel audio and recordings in favor of multichannel audio and home theater. He was frustrated by what he saw as my failure to lead the industry in this matter. He was also frustrated by my not wanting the magazine to open up its review pages to pro audio components. I had wanted Gordon to contribute a column on multichannel to Stereophile, which he rejected as being equivalent to marginalizing the subject. After his resignation Gordon contributed such a column to The Absolute Sound, but it appeared irregularly and Gordon was subsequently either fired or resigned from TAS, depending on whom you ask. The Stereophile column on multichannel eventually appeared, written by Kalman Rubinson and has been published every 2 months since. 10 years later, I still feel that had Stereophile morphed into an exclusive multichannel publication, as Gordon had wanted, it would no longer exist. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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On Jul 27, 4:35*pm, ScottW2 wrote:
On Jul 27, 7:08*am, "Harry Lavo" wrote: wrote in message It pains me to say it, but this industry is dying of its own self-inflicted wounds. *Avoidance of multi-channel for music is just one among many. *I'd be interested in your list of self-inflicted wounds. Where do you rank BS audio reviews and rags that cater to hi-dollar equipment with little or no performance benefit? * IMO, many "audiophiles" tire of playing in the minefields of ever higher dollar equipment of ever lower performance differential. ScottW That is generally what happens in the high end of any endeavor, diminishing returns for each dollar s[emt/ But there are enough people with money who will pay the exhorbitant prices for something just a little bit more perfect. We shouldn't be so sour about not having that kind of money. |
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"ScottW2" wrote in message ... On Jul 27, 7:08 am, "Harry Lavo" wrote: wrote in message It pains me to say it, but this industry is dying of its own self-inflicted wounds. Avoidance of multi-channel for music is just one among many. I'd be interested in your list of self-inflicted wounds. Where do you rank BS audio reviews and rags that cater to hi-dollar equipment with little or no performance benefit? IMO, many "audiophiles" tire of playing in the minefields of ever higher dollar equipment of ever lower performance differential. ScottW IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Let's put it this way: I think the English mags have done a much better job of focusing on affordable high-end, and promoting it to the masses. They don't ignore the very expensive stuff completely, but it is maybe 1/4 of their effort. But there are additional factors: * The lack of any industry consortium to promote audio * The lack of any attempt to interest those not already aware...eg. traveling road shows to colleges, demo rooms a la AR in the '60's * ****poor trade policies re audio retailers that have slowly driven the specialty dealer out of business or turned them into A/V dealers, and hindered their use of the web as a selling tool. And yes, there is too much bull**** and not enough honesty in the industry and that has not helped. But this marketing dishonesty is not just a problem in the audio industry, our entire culture of consumerism has been despoiled by unethical and dishonest marketing (not to speak of our political system). |
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On Jul 27, 7:30*pm, ScottW2 wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:11*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On Jul 27, 4:35*pm, ScottW2 wrote: On Jul 27, 7:08*am, "Harry Lavo" wrote: wrote in message It pains me to say it, but this industry is dying of its own self-inflicted wounds. *Avoidance of multi-channel for music is just one among many. *I'd be interested in your list of self-inflicted wounds. Where do you rank BS audio reviews and rags that cater to hi-dollar equipment with little or no performance benefit? * IMO, many "audiophiles" tire of playing in the minefields of ever higher dollar equipment of ever lower performance differential. ScottW That is generally what happens in the high *end of any endeavor, diminishing returns for each dollar s[emt/ *High-end is taking this concept to new heights. Zero or even negative returns. But there are enough people with money who will pay the exhorbitant prices for something just a little bit more perfect. *If that were true, then the industry wouldn't be dying, now would it? Have you listened to the **** young adults listen through, oh, yes, you have! The customer base is getting old, but ultra high end is still marching on. IF they have the money, let'them flaunt it. My idea of good financial planning is figuring out how to spend your last dollaqr on the day you die. We shouldn't be so sour about not having that kind of money. *Don't play "we" games with me you poor old fixed incomer taken by the eastern euro beauty for all your wordly audio goods. there goes my Sanyo cd boombox How is your garden doing |
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On Jul 27, 11:18*pm, ScottW2 wrote:
* To a slow death by Obamacare. Actually, Obamacare could cause a considerable number of quick (or "at least" quicker deaths). It is very bad news for the elderly. IF they have the money, let'them flaunt it. You really don't pay attention. My problem isn't with people paying to much, its with the industry offering too little or nothing at all for more. That market is not designed for you and me. You are the world's first and only consumer advocate wholly consumed with "protecting" the rights of unfortunate rich people being downtrodden and cheated by greedy capitalists! *My idea of good financial planning is figuring out how to spend your last dollaqr on the day you die. *A bullet is still under a dollar. *Having just watched a family member spend her last year immobilized by stroke and a tube in her stomach die sedated by morphine while the respirator was powered down, I'm not sure a bullet isn't a bad idea. *Just don't wait till you can't pull your own trigger. *Anyway, a little legacy for those left behind isn't a bad thing if you choose. Thanks, when I'm ready to go I'll just swallow the bullet and choke to death. Why waste money on`a gun? |
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Clyde Slick said: * To a slow death by Obamacare. Actually, Obamacare could Do you idiots realize that the health care legislation in the pipeline is the work of Congress, not the President? |
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Witless dispenses with Sacky the pretender idiot. Do you idiots realize that the health care legislation in the pipeline is the work of Congress, not the President? Really? So what are all those campaign speeches and townhall meetings of Obama about? I forget your pups' ages, Witless, but if either of them is over ten years old, you should ask him or her that question. |
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Is it Reading Miscomprehension Disorder or Reading Uncomprehension Disorder? Hmmm... Without some verified measurements from the Yap-o-Meter, we may never know. Witless dispenses with Sacky the pretender idiot. Do you idiots realize that the health care legislation in the pipeline is the work of Congress, not the President? *Really? *So what are all those campaign speeches and townhall meetings of Obama about? I forget your pups' ages, Witless, but if either of them is over ten years old, you should ask him or her that question. Nice advise[sic],[sic] anyone over 10 years old is smarter than you are. Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Well yapped! When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. -- "It is you who are completely unaware of what I perceive until I choose to tell you. I rarely do." -- Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, Feb. 3 2009 " If you''re that interested in what I believe I'll tell you." -- Scottie Witlessmongrel, RAO, May 14 2009 |
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On Jul 28, 3:56*pm, George M. Middius
wrote: Is it Reading Miscomprehension Disorder or Reading Uncomprehension Disorder? Hmmm... Without some verified measurements from the Yap-o-Meter, we may never know. Witless dispenses with Sacky the pretender idiot. *Nice advise[sic],[sic] anyone over 10 years old is smarter than you are. Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Well yapped! When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. I liked it better when 2pid was Galt. He couldn't resist coming back when I did. LoL. |
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On Jul 28, 1:17*pm, ScottW2 wrote:
LoL. *My gripe is that the oft touted better sound from the likes of S'puke never comes through. * I'd love it if their recomendations actually deliver. *But aside from speakers, the rest of their recomendations and claims of superior sound are subjective BS IMO. ScottW Your opinion is subjective BS! |
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George M. Middius wrote: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. In my experience, flattery is ineffective when used on morons. YMMV, I guess. |
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George M. Middius wrote: MiNe 109 said: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. In my experience, flattery is ineffective when used on morons. YMMV, I guess. Ditto for sarcasm? Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. In my experience, flattery is ineffective when used on morons. YMMV, I guess. Ditto for sarcasm? Possibly, but for a different reason, I suspect. Do you feel a tugging on your pant leg? |
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George M. Middius wrote: MiNe 109 said: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. In my experience, flattery is ineffective when used on morons. YMMV, I guess. Ditto for sarcasm? Possibly, but for a different reason, I suspect. Do you feel a tugging on your pant leg? Could be! I was going for the Golden Wingnut Hall of Fame feel, Bush being like an unappreciated composer writing masterpieces, etc. Obscure, but I'd quoted it here. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: When Stephen returns, I'm hoping he'll have a tidy name for this variant of the Scottie Game. He's like a masterful jazz musician, pouring forth innovative riffs inspired by the plainest of tunes. In my experience, flattery is ineffective when used on morons. YMMV, I guess. Ditto for sarcasm? Possibly, but for a different reason, I suspect. Do you feel a tugging on your pant leg? Could be! I was going for the Golden Wingnut Hall of Fame feel, Bush being like an unappreciated composer writing masterpieces, etc. Obscure, but I'd quoted it here. Another misunderestimification. |
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