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I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the
Prodigy. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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On Jan 18, 3:34�pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:
On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: � � I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. �I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. The current ML Summit is an outstanding loudspeaker in every conceivable way. Boon |
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MiNe 109 said: The current ML Summit is an outstanding loudspeaker in every conceivable way. Lord, yes. Is the "Martin" part of that company by any chance Jewish? |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. Which is why I have been advised I'd be far better spending $5K on a set of Prodigys rather than an new pair of Vantage. So far I am in the listening and thinking stange. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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On Jan 19, 10:31Â*am, WindsorFox-{SS}-
wrote: wrote: On Jan 18, 3:34�pm, Bret Ludwig wrote: On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: � � I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. �I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. The current ML Summit is an outstanding loudspeaker in every conceivable way. Boon Â* Â*But seems to lack a good bit compared to older models. How? I've heard a variety of MLs over the years. The Vantage and the Summit are by far the best I've heard, and I've even heard the Statements. In fact, the $10,000 Summits replaced the $85,000 Statements as the flagship of the ML line. I have access to the Summits and get to hear them 2-3 times per week since we own a pair at the magazine. So I can probably bring a bit more to the table than "lack a good bit." Boon |
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On Jan 19, 10:30�am, WindsorFox-{SS}-
wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: � � I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. �I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore.. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. � �Which is why I have been advised I'd be far better spending $5K on a set of Prodigys rather than an new pair of Vantage. So far I am in the listening and thinking stange. A used $5000 set of Prodigys is a better deal than a new $5000 set of Vantages, no doubt. But not by as much as you think. Boon |
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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: wrote: On Jan 18, 3:34?pm, Bret Ludwig wrote: On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: ? ? I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. ?I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. The current ML Summit is an outstanding loudspeaker in every conceivable way. But seems to lack a good bit compared to older models. What do you think is missing? Stephen It just does not have the same sound or sound stage. The newest ones have more frequency response, but they don't have the soul. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: MiNe 109 wrote: In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: wrote: On Jan 18, 3:34?pm, Bret Ludwig wrote: On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: ? ? I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. ?I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. The current ML Summit is an outstanding loudspeaker in every conceivable way. But seems to lack a good bit compared to older models. What do you think is missing? It just does not have the same sound or sound stage. The newest ones have more frequency response, but they don't have the soul. IMO, as good as the older models are, the newest models are the first time ML has truly succeeded in integrating dynamic bass drivers with electrostatics. I've only heard the Vantages in a home-theater system, but they sound very good. It's been too long since I heard the two you're interested in, but the reviews of the Prodigy seem more attractive to me. Stephen Yes me too, it's just that I've found the Prodigy at a best price of $4200 and the ReQuest and $1800. And without being able to go listen to each let alone compare them in the same room with the same equipment I'm soliciting thoughts from those who have done so in the past. I guess no one has or those who did aren't reading this thread. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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Jenn said: I had the Sequel IIs in the early 90s. Loved them. Are you caliming that Arnii Krooger didn't know that? As usually, Jennn you're full of yourself and, Jnen not a shred of proof to prove what you tried to make Arnii lie, about Jen. |
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In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote: Jenn said: I had the Sequel IIs in the early 90s. Loved them. Are you caliming that Arnii Krooger didn't know that? As usually, Jennn you're full of yourself and, Jnen not a shred of proof to prove what you tried to make Arnii lie, about Jen. Sorry, I can't read this. I have vision loss to go along with my hearing loss. |
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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: Stephen: I've only heard the Vantages in a home-theater system, but they sound very good. It's been too long since I heard the two you're interested in, but the reviews of the Prodigy seem more attractive to me. Yes me too, it's just that I've found the Prodigy at a best price of $4200 and the ReQuest and $1800. And without being able to go listen to each let alone compare them in the same room with the same equipment I'm soliciting thoughts from those who have done so in the past. I guess no one has or those who did aren't reading this thread. Too bad about that. If I were looking for an instant good-but-cheap system, I'd try out these powered MLs: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Pu...trostatic-Loud speaker/dp/B000XSDHIQ Free shipping! And amazon customers seem to like them as substitute fronts in Polk home theater systems. :-) Stephen At $3000 that is almost the same price as the used Prodigy's and those would have a harder time filling up my room. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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On Jan 19, 6:49Â*pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
wrote: On Jan 19, 10:30�am, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: Bret Ludwig wrote: On Jan 18, 5:22 pm, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: � � I'm looking for opinions, thoughts, comments on the ReQuest vs the Prodigy. �I don't think ML makes a particularly great electrostat anymore. If you really want stats, consider some of the better kit projects. � �Which is why I have been advised I'd be far better spending $5K on a set of Prodigys rather than an new pair of Vantage. So far I am in the listening and thinking stange. A used $5000 set of Prodigys is a better deal than a new $5000 set of Vantages, no doubt. But not by as much as you think. Boon Â* Â*Explain? That's why I asked.... -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, Â* Â* and it still sucks today!" Â*- Â* Marc Bissonette- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, this has drifted away from your original question. My objection is to Bret Ludwig's assertion that Martin-Logans aren't as good as they used to be. My comments are derived from the fact that I've listened to many MLs over the years, and I was never a huge fan until I heard the latest 2 models, the Vantage and the Summit. I'd have to agree with Stephen that ML has been dealing with the integration problem between the panels and the woofers for some years (which is why the original CLS is perhaps my favorite ML of all time, and I'm looking forward to the new one). They've finally eliminated the issue completely. I do have a friend with the ReQuests (anyone remember Sandman?), and they are fine speakers. But they didn't have the limitless dynamics and soundstage that the Summits have, nor the deep bass performance. The Summits, in my opinion, are among the finest $10K speakers out there. With the Descent subwoofer, they're even better. My only reservation is that they still don't disappear completely, like most panel speakers. Boon |
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Will Ulmer---The only thing filling up your room, as well as your
mouth, are a bunch of hard legs looking to cornhole a Coon Ass inbred. You yanks know what your dealing with here? This bloke is a supreme Internet Troll and a ugly **** at that! http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...48891c4c328d1f WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: MiNe 109 wrote: In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: Stephen: I've only heard the Vantages in a home-theater system, but they sound very good. It's been too long since I heard the two you're interested in, but the reviews of the Prodigy seem more attractive to me. Yes me too, it's just that I've found the Prodigy at a best price of $4200 and the ReQuest and $1800. And without being able to go listen to each let alone compare them in the same room with the same equipment I'm soliciting thoughts from those who have done so in the past. I guess no one has or those who did aren't reading this thread. Too bad about that. If I were looking for an instant good-but-cheap system, I'd try out these powered MLs: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Pu...trostatic-Loud speaker/dp/B000XSDHIQ Free shipping! And amazon customers seem to like them as substitute fronts in Polk home theater systems. :-) Stephen At $3000 that is almost the same price as the used Prodigy's and those would have a harder time filling up my room. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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MiNe 109 wrote:
In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: MiNe 109 wrote: In article , WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote: Stephen: I've only heard the Vantages in a home-theater system, but they sound very good. It's been too long since I heard the two you're interested in, but the reviews of the Prodigy seem more attractive to me. Yes me too, it's just that I've found the Prodigy at a best price of $4200 and the ReQuest and $1800. And without being able to go listen to each let alone compare them in the same room with the same equipment I'm soliciting thoughts from those who have done so in the past. I guess no one has or those who did aren't reading this thread. Too bad about that. If I were looking for an instant good-but-cheap system, I'd try out these powered MLs: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-Pu...trostatic-Loud speaker/dp/B000XSDHIQ Free shipping! And amazon customers seem to like them as substitute fronts in Polk home theater systems. :-) At $3000 that is almost the same price as the used Prodigy's and those would have a harder time filling up my room. Sorry! Missed the quantity indication that doubles the price. Stephen Yeah I took a double take as well. At first glance I though Holy crap. I also remembered the "Warning" on ML web site so I called to ask about the online sales and got a long winded explanation. The short version is that Amazon as of a holiday promo is authorized to sell that speaker which I believe is the bottom of their line. He also mentioned "University Audio" that has authorization to sell discontinued products online, I assume through Amazon since their direct web site is a bit lacking. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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