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gas mileage gimmicks?
I was wondering about any of those gas milage gimmicks that are around teh car
industry. I know the "tornado" fuel savor is a crock of ****, but what about others. I've seen some things that are magnets that clip on your fuel line, countless stuff you put in your fuel tank and oil. does anythign at all work, is it all bogus? anyone find anything that works for them? just wondering, all I've used are fuel injector cleaner but have never really noticed any increases in gas mileage or improvement in starting or anything else. thanks -Slick Nick |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 06:28:51 GMT, cyrus wrote:
In article , ospam (habibe99) wrote: I was wondering about any of those gas milage gimmicks that are around teh car industry. I know the "tornado" fuel savor is a crock of ****, but what about others. I've seen some things that are magnets that clip on your fuel line, countless stuff you put in your fuel tank and oil. does anythign at all work, is it all bogus? anyone find anything that works for them? just wondering, all I've used are fuel injector cleaner but have never really noticed any increases in gas mileage or improvement in starting or anything else. thanks -Slick Nick like others have mentioned, keep your car tuned up. clean air filter, correct air pressure for you tires. fuel injector cleaner isn't the best.. it just passes that clogged up junk past your fuel filter down to your injectors. -- cyrus *coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough* I agree about the fuel injector cleaner. Cleaning the injectors isn't a bad idea in and of itself, but better to do it the right way, by removing the injectors and spraying pressurized cleaning fluid through them. That way, you don't have to worry about junk being flushed out of your fuel filter into the injector nozzles. In general, none of the additives will make a noticeable difference, unless there was something significantly wrong in the first place. For example, if your valves and lifters were really sludged up, you might notice an improvement in gas mileage after running some Marvel Mystery Oil in your crankcase for a while, but if your engine is relatively clean and in a good state of tune, none of the vortex/magnet/additive products are going to make a difference. Contrary to popular belief, there's not a lot of chemical energy in gasoline that goes to waste these days. A quick look at an emissions test for a well-running engine should convince you of that. It's true that some engines make more power for a given amount of fuel, or get better gas mileage while providing a given amount of power, but that has to do with the inherent design of the engine, rather than anything you're going to affect by using additives or sticking magnets on the fuel line. Scott Gardner |
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sanitarium wrote:
I heard somewhere that running a lighter viscosity oil will reduce engine drag and increase mileage. Aaaaah, no. You want your oil to be viscous - to stick to the parts. Otherwise you could lubricate your car with water. You should always use the oil recommended for your car, unless it has over 150k miles. Then you use a slightly heavier weight to maintain hydrodynamic separation (your engine parts don't actually touch when your engine is running). -- thelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" Before you ask a question, check the FAQs for this newsgroup at http://www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq. It contains over a decade and a half of knowledge. teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. |
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I heard somewhere that running a lighter viscosity oil will reduce engine
drag and increase mileage. Never tried it myself though.... Sounds like there would be a trade off in engine life... piston/cylinder compression etc... Garrett "habibe99" wrote in message ... I was wondering about any of those gas milage gimmicks that are around teh car industry. I know the "tornado" fuel savor is a crock of ****, but what about others. I've seen some things that are magnets that clip on your fuel line, countless stuff you put in your fuel tank and oil. does anythign at all work, is it all bogus? anyone find anything that works for them? just wondering, all I've used are fuel injector cleaner but have never really noticed any increases in gas mileage or improvement in starting or anything else. thanks -Slick Nick |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:53:24 -0500, thelizman
wrote: sanitarium wrote: I heard somewhere that running a lighter viscosity oil will reduce engine drag and increase mileage. Aaaaah, no. You want your oil to be viscous - to stick to the parts. Otherwise you could lubricate your car with water. You should always use the oil recommended for your car, unless it has over 150k miles. Then you use a slightly heavier weight to maintain hydrodynamic separation (your engine parts don't actually touch when your engine is running). -- thelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" Liz is absolutely right. While there IS horsepower to be gained by going to a lighter-viscosity oil, it will likely come at the expense of reduced engine life. And once you start wearing your bearings, piston rings, and cylinder walls, you're REALLY going to start having fuel-consumption issues. That doesn't mean that you should necessarily run 20W-50 year-round, especially if you live in a colder climate, but don't go lighter than the factory recommends. Running 10W30 during an Arizona summer is no way to pick up a few extra MPG. On high-power V-8s, drag racers have picked up 30 or 40 horsepower (or more) by using ultra-light synthetic oil, (like straight 0W), but they also don't rely on their engines to go more than a few dozen full-speed passes before being rebuilt. Formula 1 and NASCAR engines are rebuilt after every race, so a lot of the tricks they use to gain horsepower aren't really an option for those of us with street-driven cars. Scott Gardner |
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True story:
My father used to live in New Jersey when cars need to be inspecte yearly. He had inherited this old 80's Oldsmobile and took it t inspection. After the inspection the mechanic says "I'm sorry I can' pass this vehicle." I can't remember what test it didn't pass. Th mechanic told him to put in some (concentrated) CHevron Techron an come back tomorrow. He did and so the next day, they ran the same tes and the car PASSED the inspection. I have no idea how or why but that stuff worked - techstar2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/showthr...threadid=17977 |
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Another CAF Moron fails to quote
techstar25 wrote:
True story: snip Nobody ****ing cares. So, when are you people going to clean your acts up? -- thelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" Before you ask a question, check the FAQs for this newsgroup at http://www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq. It contains over a decade and a half of knowledge. teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. |
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There are some additives that will temporarily mask an emissions
problem, but they don't necessarily make the engine run better or give better gas mileage. I remember seeing one additive that has a money-back guarantee if your car doesn't pass the emissions test after using it. Once the treated gas is used up though, you're most likely back where you started. The easiest thing you can do before an emissions test is to change the oil, and make sure the car is fully up to operating temperature before you get to the testing center. Being up to normal operating temperature helps promote a more complete burning of the fuel, and the fresh oil change ensures that if you are burning a little bit of oil, it's not old, burnt-hydrocarbon-laden oil. Scott Gardner On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:46:47 GMT, techstar25 wrote: True story: My father used to live in New Jersey when cars need to be inspected yearly. He had inherited this old 80's Oldsmobile and took it to inspection. After the inspection the mechanic says "I'm sorry I can't pass this vehicle." I can't remember what test it didn't pass. The mechanic told him to put in some (concentrated) CHevron Techron and come back tomorrow. He did and so the next day, they ran the same test and the car PASSED the inspection. I have no idea how or why but that stuff worked. -- techstar25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CarAudioForum.com - Usenet Gateway w/over one million posts online! View this thread: http://www.caraudioforum.com/showthr...hreadid=179777 |
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Another CAF Moron fails to quote
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:06:19 -0500, thelizman
wrote: techstar25 wrote: True story: snip Nobody ****ing cares. So, when are you people going to clean your acts up? -- thelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" Before you ask a question, check the FAQs for this newsgroup at http://www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq. It contains over a decade and a half of knowledge. So where do you get "over a decade and a half"? Scott teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. |
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