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Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian |
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"Adrian" wrote in message oups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Here`s a startng point A. http://www.videointerchange.com/vintage_video1.htm http://en.allexperts.com/q/Home-Reco...g-Tape-P-C.htm |
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Adrian wrote:
Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. There's a work-around for that limitation (it's been posted in ACF many times) but quite a few free recorders have also been mentioned in ACF. Some of them are listed he http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf...Recorder:Audio I use, like an recommend Wave Repair. Program: Wave Repair Author: Clive Backham Wa (Liteware) (Nagware) (free) recording and track splitting functions are free http://www.delback.co.uk/wavrep/ Note: it has a very unobtrusive nag. Susan -- Posted to alt.comp.freeware Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online): http://www.google.com/advanced_group....comp.freeware Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org Pricelesswa http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained) |
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"Adrian" wrote...
Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Does the recorder still run? All the rubber parts still intact, etc? Should be able to play tapes without involving any other equipment. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. There are a series of windows that control the sound features. On my Dell notebook running XP, I can right-click on the little speaker in the tool-tray and select "Open Volume Control". Then click on "Options" in the menu bar, and click "Properites" then I can select to see the "Recording" control panel (rather than the "Playback" which is normally displayed. Be sure that your desired input is checked so that it appears in the window. You can then select the desired input, and turn up the volume, etc. This assumes that you really have a line input. Most notebook computers (including mine) have only mono mic input. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! There is a way to hack Windows Sound Recorder to run longer, but IMHO, its not worth the trouble. So, what hardware do I need? If you *really* have a stereo line input on your notebook compuer, then you don't need anything but a cable to connect between the recorder output and the PC input. and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. A couple of possibilities are (free) Audacity and (very cheap) TotalRecorder. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ (free, but somewhat fiddly) http://www.highcriteria.com/ ($18US, but straightforward) (see also their "Primer on PC Audio") |
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Adrian wrote:
Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Does the laptop have a stereo line-in? Most only have a mono microphone input these days. If not you need a USB soundcard, which will probably come with recording software. I use Goldwave for editing and Nero for CD writing. -- Eiron. |
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Owain wrote:
(b) google Audacity It's Pricelessware ("The best of the best in Freeware - selected by alt.comp.freeware participants"). Program: Audacity Author: Dominic Mazzoni Wa (Donationware) (free) (open source: GNU GPL) http://sourceforge.net/projects/audacity/ http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ More free audio editors that have been mentioned in alt.comp.freeware are listed he http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf....01AudioEditor Wavosaur is fairly new and has gotten some good reviews from ACF participants. . . Susan -- Posted to alt.comp.freeware Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online): http://www.google.com/advanced_group....comp.freeware Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org Pricelesswa http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained) |
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Adrian wrote:
Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian try www.audiograbber.com it works and it's free. |
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"Adrian" wrote in message oups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian Don't forget to clean and demagnetise the heads and tape guides of the R-R recorder. You don't want to damage these tapes, so a bit of maintenance of the player would be a very good idea. S. |
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On Jun 10, 11:37 am, "meerkat" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message oups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Here`s a startng point A. http://www.videointerchange.com/vint...g-Tape-P-C.htm Thank you. That at least tells me I am going in the right direction. :-) Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 12:21 pm, Susan Bugher wrote:
Adrianwrote: Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. There's a work-around for that limitation (it's been posted in ACF many times) but quite a few free recorders have also been mentioned in ACF. Some of them are listed hehttp://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf...Recorder:Audio I use, like an recommend Wave Repair. Program: Wave Repair Author: Clive Backham Wa (Liteware) (Nagware) (free) recording and track splitting functions are freehttp://www.delback.co.uk/wavrep/ Note: it has a very unobtrusive nag. Susan -- Posted to alt.comp.freeware Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):http://www.google.com/advanced_group....comp.freeware Pricelessware & ACF:http://www.pricelesswarehome.org Pricelesswahttp://www.pricelessware.org(not maintained) Thank you Susan. When I have sorted out the hardware side, I will look at Wave repair. My main concern is the ability to write regular CDs not MP3s. Wave repair seems to cover that issue. Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 12:27 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Does the recorder still run? All the rubber parts still intact, etc? Should be able to play tapes without involving any other equipment. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. There are a series of windows that control the sound features. On my Dell notebook running XP, I can right-click on the little speaker in the tool-tray and select "Open Volume Control". Then click on "Options" in the menu bar, and click "Properites" then I can select to see the "Recording" control panel (rather than the "Playback" which is normally displayed. Be sure that your desired input is checked so that it appears in the window. You can then select the desired input, and turn up the volume, etc. This assumes that you really have a line input. Most notebook computers (including mine) have only mono mic input. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! There is a way to hack Windows Sound Recorder to run longer, but IMHO, its not worth the trouble. So, what hardware do I need? If you *really* have a stereo line input on your notebook compuer, then you don't need anything but a cable to connect between the recorder output and the PC input. and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. A couple of possibilities are (free) Audacity and (very cheap) TotalRecorder. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ (free, but somewhat fiddly)http://www.highcriteria.com/ ($18US, but straightforward) (see also their "Primer on PC Audio") Thanks Richard. Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 12:07 pm, Owain wrote:
Adrianwrote: Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. (a) check your sound card manual, Control Panel, or start up Windows Volume Control and make sure the right input device is selected (b) google Audacity Owain Thanks Owain. The sound 'card' is actually part of the motherboard. I have found and tweaked the Volume control and its related input and output controls. I mistook the microphone input for a line in. When I have located an "iMic", I will chack out Audacity. Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 12:56 pm, Eiron wrote:
Adrianwrote: Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Does the laptop have a stereo line-in? Most only have a mono microphone input these days. If not you need a USB soundcard, which will probably come with recording software. I use Goldwave for editing and Nero for CD writing. -- Eiron. Thanks Eiron. No, I looked again and I only have a mike input. When I have resolved the hardware issue I will look at Goldwave and Nero. Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 2:41 pm, wb wrote:
Adrianwrote: Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian trywww.audiograbber.comit works and it's free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Appreciated. I will check it out Susan. Adrian |
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On Jun 11, 1:51 am, "Serge Auckland"
wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message oups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian Don't forget to clean and demagnetise the heads and tape guides of the R-R recorder. You don't want to damage these tapes, so a bit of maintenance of the player would be a very good idea. S.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The tape dcorder was overhaued very recently. It is pretty old, but I think it will survive to copy the few tapes with which I need to deal. Adrian |
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In rec.audio.tech Owain wrote:
Adrian wrote: Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) open reel tapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 Open Reel Recorder and a Dell Latitude D810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. (a) check your sound card manual, Control Panel, or start up Windows Volume Control and make sure the right input device is selected (b) google Audacity ....then run away screaming. :-) I'd highly recommend not using Audacity. It's a well-designed program plagued by bugs and bad coding. After spending weeks learning the ins and outs of it, I finally gave up and resolved to buy Goldwave. Colin |
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oups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 |
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I've been really happy with Real Encoder (from the hated Real Audio
people) in a 1997 version on my win95 desktop (look at the header on this message). There's an old 11 kbs music codec that's just fine for me, and it produces about 6MB/hr of file ; and an 8.5 kbs codec for voice, at 4MB/hr. http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/faure.ram sample music. Not hi-fi but a pleasant sound, at least on my PC. The chief thing that keeps me running this faithful old PC is that Real Encoder is now gone. There's a Real Producer, but I don't know if it has all the codecs, can run from batch mode, and so forth. Its GUI is completely undecipherable. I run it from the command line. Radio Shack has an audio cable, I think, that alleges it converts line level to mic level ; you could do the same thing with a 500k resistor, probably; adjust value for best sound, if that doesn't work. Probably you'll need an isolation transformer in any case, as well. They also have one of those. It's too bad there isn't an isolation transformer that also does the line to mic level conversion. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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Adrian wrote:
trywww.audiograbber.comit works and it's free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Appreciated. I will check it out Susan. Adrian The actual site for audio grabber is http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/ Good program as well! You should definately look up Arny's suggestion - "Behringer UCA202" -- Adrian C |
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On Jun 11, 2:53 pm, Adrian wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:51 am, "Serge Auckland" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message roups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian Don't forget to clean and demagnetise the heads and tape guides of the R-R recorder. You don't want to damage these tapes, so a bit of maintenance of the player would be a very good idea. S.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The tape dcorder was overhaued very recently. It is pretty old, but I think it will survive to copy the few tapes with which I need to deal. Adrian I did a lot of tape work at one point - conversions. Two three-head decks, middle of the line quality decks. I've built computers since day one, so decided to go at by adding a better (middle-of-line) sound recording board - a Santa Cruz with 24bit input sampling. Seemed fair treatment for time I put into making most of them off vinyl. I wouldn't call the results by any means outstanding - mediocre for some of it, those with aberrations in the encoding due to difficulty with musical composition, but better for the most part. Flat WAV reference capture is block one, in my case with an edge that soundboard provided. Then I encoded to 192K MP3. Big mistake. Should have been all the way up, max, 320K. MP3 gets chopped up by software for silence breaks between the tracks: MP3 Direct Cut (freeware). Bulk normalized strategies for discrete, set limit, or entirety of passages (MP3Gain freeware). Trim normalized for lead -in and -out: MP3 Trim (freeware). Tagged: MP3 Studio (lots of freeware taggers). CoolEdit Pro for a whole slew of added processing effects and filters, but it's out of the biz (Adobe bought them for reselling). Once set up - I'd consider doing sample takes, side-by-sides for listening closely to what that laptop mb audio chipset delivers - whether it's acceptable quality. |
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On Jun 11, 11:59 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message oups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 Thanks for that. I hadn't purchased an iMic yet. So, I am now looking for a Behringer UCA202. I am watching ebay. If that route fails there are several web outlets with units for well under USD40.00. It is hard to believe that sound quality that was unafordable twenty years back is now easily attained. Adrian |
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On Jun 11, 12:59 pm, Adrian C wrote:
Adrianwrote: trywww.audiograbber.comitworks and it's free.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Appreciated. I will check it out Susan. Adrian The actual site for audio grabber ishttp://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/ Good program as well! You should definately look up Arny's suggestion - "Behringer UCA202" --AdrianC Thanks Adrian "C". I will take a look at Audiograbber. I have not determined the best software route. It is great to know there are options. Cany any one tell me the correct name for CD format music? Is there a dot suffix for a music CD "file type". Adrian |
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On Jun 11, 2:09 pm, Flasherly wrote:
On Jun 11, 2:53 wrote: On Jun 11, 1:51 am, "Serge Auckland" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message roups.com... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Somehow I thought this would be easy!! :-) However, at present the notebook does not recognize an analogue signal at the line in. Moreover, the only piece of software that seems to have an audio record option is Windows Sound Recorder with a time limit of 60 seconds. I need to record several hours! So, what hardware do I need? and, what software? Audio quality is moderately important, given that the source material is not perfect. Many thanks Adrian Don't forget to clean and demagnetise the heads and tape guides of the R-R recorder. You don't want to damage these tapes, so a bit of maintenance of the player would be a very good idea. S.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The tape dcorder was overhaued very recently. It is pretty old, but I think it will survive to copy the few tapes with which I need to deal. Adrian I did a lot of tape work at one point - conversions. Two three-head decks, middle of the line quality decks. I've built computers since day one, so decided to go at by adding a better (middle-of-line) sound recording board - a Santa Cruz with 24bit input sampling. Seemed fair treatment for time I put into making most of them off vinyl. I wouldn't call the results by any means outstanding - mediocre for some of it, those with aberrations in the encoding due to difficulty with musical composition, but better for the most part. Flat WAV reference capture is block one, in my case with an edge that soundboard provided. Then I encoded to 192K MP3. Big mistake. Should have been all the way up, max, 320K. MP3 gets chopped up by software for silence breaks between the tracks: MP3 Direct Cut (freeware). Bulk normalized strategies for discrete, set limit, or entirety of passages (MP3Gain freeware). Trim normalized for lead -in and -out: MP3 Trim (freeware). Tagged: MP3 Studio (lots of freeware taggers). CoolEdit Pro for a whole slew of added processing effects and filters, but it's out of the biz (Adobe bought them for reselling). Once set up - I'd consider doing sample takes, side-by-sides for listening closely to what that laptop mb audio chipset delivers - whether it's acceptable quality.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For this project I am using a very old Sony TC166. It has been thoroughly overhauled. That said I doubt it has many years life left in it. The tape are mono. and not great quility. By nature I am a perfectionist in these things. I know on this project perfection is unachievable. For the future I am intersted in pursuing the use of computers as an audio recording device. The potential for quality is way beyond my expections as a young audio buff in the 1970s. However, I like to use CD as my output medium. I know it wil work on all of my audio systems. It will work in 'in car' systems. I can pass CDs to friends in the knowledge that they probably have equipment that will play them. As regards softwa I will read the website "blurb" on those suggested. Then I will download the ones most likely to fit my purpose, and do some comparrisons. I will try to find a package with which to settle. I do have a concern about downloading malware. That is not hard to do. Adrian |
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"Adrian" wrote ...
Cany any one tell me the correct name for CD format music? Is there a dot suffix for a music CD "file type". You effectively want a "WAV" file, stereo, 16-bit, with 44.1K sample rate. That is the Red-Book CD "native encoding". If you record some other kind of file, many CD writing software will convert on-the-fly to that mode, but better to do the original capture that way and avoid the intrigue. |
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ups.com On Jun 11, 11:59 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message oups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 Thanks for that. I hadn't purchased an iMic yet. So, I am now looking for a Behringer UCA202. I am watching ebay. If that route fails there are several web outlets with units for well under USD40.00. It is hard to believe that sound quality that was unafordable twenty years back is now easily attained. In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. Hard drive? At exactly that time, my (late) father-in-law was a Systems Engineer on what was then Europe's largest 'hybrid' digital/analog computer at BAC, Stevenage. It had 8K of Ram and the only storage medium I ever go to hear about was tapes...?? |
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On Jun 13, 1:00 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ups.com On Jun 11, 11:59 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message groups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 Thanks for that. I hadn't purchased an iMic yet. So, I am now looking for a Behringer UCA202. I am watching ebay. If that route fails there are several web outlets with units for well under USD40.00. It is hard to believe that sound quality that was unafordable twenty years back is now easily attained. In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range.- Hide quoted text - Would that be a PACE analgue computer by any chance - with removable patchboards? Robert |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. Hard drive? Sure. By then hard drives had been around for like 15 years. This one had a single 14" ferrite-covered aluminum disk in a plastic cartridge. At exactly that time, my (late) father-in-law was a Systems Engineer on what was then Europe's largest 'hybrid' digital/analog computer at BAC, Stevenage. It had 8K of Ram and the only storage medium I ever go to hear about was tapes...?? We had tapes on larger computers, but this one was about cards, printing and mountable hard drives. For a long time the UK has tended to trail the US, particularly in computer technology. When I was in the biz, we figured 2-3 years, and twice the price. I'm sure you will take umbridge, but that's how things were in the late 1980s with our UK subsidiary. |
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oups.com On Jun 13, 1:00 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message ups.com On Jun 11, 11:59 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message oups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 Thanks for that. I hadn't purchased an iMic yet. So, I am now looking for a Behringer UCA202. I am watching ebay. If that route fails there are several web outlets with units for well under USD40.00. It is hard to believe that sound quality that was unafordable twenty years back is now easily attained. In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range.- Hide quoted text - Would that be a PACE analgue computer by any chance - with removable patchboards? EAI 680. http://archive.computerhistory.org/r....102646244.pdf The PACE was an earlier model, which I had cut my teeth on, before moving on to the *big time* 680. Here's a brouchure about a larger model than the one we had. http://archive.computerhistory.org/r....102646219.pdf Both computers had removable patchboards. You could set the pots and parameters on the 680 from a program running on the 1130. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Keith G" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. Hard drive? Sure. By then hard drives had been around for like 15 years. This one had a single 14" ferrite-covered aluminum disk in a plastic cartridge. OK. At exactly that time, my (late) father-in-law was a Systems Engineer on what was then Europe's largest 'hybrid' digital/analog computer at BAC, Stevenage. It had 8K of Ram and the only storage medium I ever go to hear about was tapes...?? We had tapes on larger computers, but this one was about cards, printing and mountable hard drives. For a long time the UK has tended to trail the US, particularly in computer technology. When I was in the biz, we figured 2-3 years, and twice the price. I'm sure you will take umbridge, but that's how things were in the late 1980s with our UK subsidiary. I take no umbrage, it's how it was - I remember it. Having bankrupted itself pulling various Europeans' arse out of the fire, the UK was still paying for WW2 back in those days. There was no money to develop computers despite (I gather) a considerable contribution to technology in the early stages. Similarly, what aerospace technology innovation/development there had been, had gone 'West' with various Brit designs being stifled in favour of other designs by our 'NATO allies' - all under threat of *fund withdrawal*, which this country simply couldn't afford back then. (Or now, if the truth be told...) I don't think the UK trails the US by much more than 6 months in things of a less 'serious' nature these days, but that's only because the Japs ship to the US first. I do think we are unrecoverable *years* behind the affluent Far East in the areas of 'lifestyle' products, engineering and 'automotive', in particular... |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:04:57 +0100, Adrian
wrote: On Jun 11, 2:09 pm, Flasherly wrote: As regards softwa I will read the website "blurb" on those suggested. Then I will download the ones most likely to fit my purpose, and do some comparrisons. I will try to find a package with which to settle. I do have a concern about downloading malware. That is not hard to do. I would also suggest looking at what you have already. What burning software do you have on the laptop? If you are lucky enough to have Nero then you may not need anything else as Nero comes with a usable sound recorder/editor. Cheers James. |
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I don't think the UK trails the US by much more than 6 months in things of a less 'serious' nature these days, but that's only because the Japs ship to the US first. Only one ocean to cross. ;-) I do think we are unrecoverable *years* behind the affluent Far East in the areas of 'lifestyle' products, engineering and 'automotive', in particular... It appears that US automotive manufacturers are finally catching up with the Japanese. Of course just about everything is a world car under the skin, so its hard to tell who is on first and who is on second... |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. Hard drive? At exactly that time, my (late) father-in-law was a Systems Engineer on what was then Europe's largest 'hybrid' digital/analog computer at BAC, Stevenage. It had 8K of Ram and the only storage medium I ever go to hear about was tapes...?? In 1967-69 I was studying CS at a regional junior college and we had an IBM 1401 with four hard drives (with the removable "paks" of discs), and an IBM 1620 with two more hard drives. While I was there they upgraded the 1401 to a new System360 with at least 8 hard drives (sealed "Winchester" drives, the 12-inch equivalent of what we use today.) And a whopping 256K of memory. Still used a Hollerith ("IBM") card reader for student job input. Curious that back then we had 12 and 16 inch hard drives and 2 inch silicon wafers. And today we have 2 inch (and even 1 inch) hard drives and 12 inch (300mm) and 18 inch (450mm) wafers. :-) |
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In rec.audio.tech Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith G" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range. Hard drive? Sure. By then hard drives had been around for like 15 years. This one had a single 14" ferrite-covered aluminum disk in a plastic cartridge. Which drive was this? I used to use Diablo drives which took RK05 cartridges, back in the olden days. Colin |
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message In rec.audio.tech Arny Krueger wrote: "Keith G" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote Hard drive? Sure. By then hard drives had been around for like 15 years. This one had a single 14" ferrite-covered aluminum disk in a plastic cartridge. Which drive was this? I used to use Diablo drives which took RK05 cartridges, back in the olden days. That was DEC equipment. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...130_intro.html This was the IBM 2314 drive, the cartridge was the 2315. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...130_intro.html |
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On Jun 13, 9:57 am, "James Perrett"
wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:04:57 wrote: On Jun 11, 2:09 pm, Flasherly wrote: As regards softwa I will read the website "blurb" on those suggested. Then I will download the ones most likely to fit my purpose, and do some comparrisons. I will try to find a package with which to settle. I do have a concern about downloading malware. That is not hard to do. I would also suggest looking at what you have already. What burning software do you have on the laptop? If you are lucky enough to have Nero then you may not need anything else as Nero comes with a usable sound recorder/editor. Cheers James. Hi James, Currently I burn CDs with Sonic Record now plus. The version I have has no "capture" capability (that I can see). The only recording program on my Notebook is, AFIK, the Windows Sound Recorder. That looks to be pitiful. :-) So, when I have acquired a Behringer UCA202, I will investigate some of the packages recomended in this thread. Thus far the folks here have given me an education. :-) Who makes Nero? What is its availability? Thanks Adrian |
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On Jun 10, 12:27 pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote: "Adrian" wrote... Can someone advise me please? I plan to copy some very old (38 years) openreeltapes to CD. I have an aging Sony TC366 OpenReelRecorder and a DellLatitudeD810 Notebook. Does the recorder still run? All the rubber parts still intact, etc? Should be able to play tapes without involving any other equipment. I will recommend Rip Vinyl. Cheap and does a good job. http://www.ripvinyl.com/ "RIP Vinyl Version 3.38 The easy way to transfer your vinyl records to CD, MP3, iPod or other MP3 player!" |
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ups.com So, when I have acquired a Behringer UCA202, I will investigate some of the packages recomended in this thread. Thus far the folks here have given me an education. :-) Go to google and find the web site for Audacity. It's freeware and really pretty good. |
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On Jun 13, 3:13 pm, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in message oups.com On Jun 13, 1:00 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message roups.com On Jun 11, 11:59 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Adrian" wrote in message legroups.com Closer inspection tells me that I only have a microphone input. I did find the windows screens that allow me to change the "audio mix". But, without a line input they don't help a whole lot. My next step is to find an "iMic". :-) Then I will check out the software option you suggest. iMics are not bad for playback, but they are poor for recording. Instead, see if you can find one of these: Behringer UCA202 Thanks for that. I hadn't purchased an iMic yet. So, I am now looking for a Behringer UCA202. I am watching ebay. If that route fails there are several web outlets with units for well under USD40.00. It is hard to believe that sound quality that was unafordable twenty years back is now easily attained. In 1972 I was an EE undergraduate student, working on a hybrid computer, which was composed of an analog computer, a pair of A/D & D/A converters, and a small digital computer. The A/D - D/A pair was speced to have true 16 bits monotonicity and accuracy, and a max 200 KHz conversion rate. Price was said to be around $500,000. The digital computer had 32k bytes of RAM and an approx 1 Megabyte hard drive. The price was in the same range.- Hide quoted text - Would that be a PACE analgue computer by any chance - with removable patchboards? EAI 680. http://archive.computerhistory.org/r...AI.680.1965.10... The PACE was an earlier model, which I had cut my teeth on, before moving on to the *big time* 680. Here's a brouchure about a larger model than the one we had. http://archive.computerhistory.org/r...AI.231R.1961.1... Both computers had removable patchboards. You could set the pots and parameters on the 680 from a program running on the 1130.- Hide quoted text - Fascinating photos. My father used to work on something like this at the CEGB during the 1960s and latert at Marconi (Stanmore). Thank you for posting about them. Robert |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message ups.com So, when I have acquired a Behringer UCA202, I will investigate some of the packages recomended in this thread. Thus far the folks here have given me an education. :-) Go to google and find the web site for Audacity. It's freeware and really pretty good. I'll second the recommendation for Audacity. Dunno if it has direct-CD-burning capability, but your laptop already has the burning software, so all you need to do is capture to 44.1kHz/16-bit/stereo WAVs, do whatever editing you desire, and burn the files via your burning software. Nero is a great application made by Ahead Software, and relatively inexpensive for everything it does. They have a downloadable demo available - www.nero.com |
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