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What good will moving to Canada do.

Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.

You just defined liberalism.

If America had any backbone the nation would be undergoing days of
national strikes right now.


If you had any backbone, you would be out on the streets with therm,
not posting to an obscure newsgroup.

Randall
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Randall Shawver
 
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What good will moving to Canada do.

Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.

You just defined liberalism.

If America had any backbone the nation would be undergoing days of
national strikes right now.


If you had any backbone, you would be out on the streets with therm,
not posting to an obscure newsgroup.

Randall


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Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.


Sounds like a majority of my Hip Hop clients.


John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Blind Joni
 
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Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.


Sounds like a majority of my Hip Hop clients.


John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Back to the off-topic topic of this thread:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm
Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to stand up & fight.
Hey, how do you know when Condi Rice is lying? Her lips are moving.
How many neocons does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None. It's easier for them to make you
believe the bulb is working.

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"Nmm" wrote in message
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ospam (WillStG) wrote in message

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"Roger W. Norman"

Government is for idiots, run by idiots, and treats ALL people like idiots.
That's my take on this whole thing. I refuse to be one of the idiots any
longer.


So you *admit* that you've been.... Err - never mind.
But doesn't this comment really belong in the "Moving To Canada" thread?




What good will moving to Canada do.

Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.

If America had any backbone the nation would be undergoing days of
national strikes right now.

Bring back the draft, and declare war on Syria Iran and North Korea,
Bring em on!!!!



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Back to the off-topic topic of this thread:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm
Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to stand up & fight.
Hey, how do you know when Condi Rice is lying? Her lips are moving.
How many neocons does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None. It's easier for them to make you
believe the bulb is working.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"Nmm" wrote in message
om...
ospam (WillStG) wrote in message

...
"Roger W. Norman"

Government is for idiots, run by idiots, and treats ALL people like idiots.
That's my take on this whole thing. I refuse to be one of the idiots any
longer.


So you *admit* that you've been.... Err - never mind.
But doesn't this comment really belong in the "Moving To Canada" thread?




What good will moving to Canada do.

Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.

If America had any backbone the nation would be undergoing days of
national strikes right now.

Bring back the draft, and declare war on Syria Iran and North Korea,
Bring em on!!!!



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Yeah, dude, I've been one of the idiots! g

And I never said I was moving to Canada. Too fricking cold.

So there. You have what you want, but like an Abu Graib confession, it
means just about as much and proffers no information to you but what you
want to hear.

Act on it because it's all you know.

And get back to me on just how that went, will ya? And could you tell me
just how many taxpayer's dollars were spent because I'd just like to know.

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SirMusic Studio

"WillStG" wrote in message
...
"Roger W. Norman"
Government is for idiots, run by idiots, and treats ALL people like

idiots.
That's my take on this whole thing. I refuse to be one of the idiots any
longer.


So you *admit* that you've been.... Err - never mind.
But doesn't this comment really belong in the "Moving To Canada"

thread?


g


Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Audioist / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits







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Roger W. Norman
 
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Yeah, dude, I've been one of the idiots! g

And I never said I was moving to Canada. Too fricking cold.

So there. You have what you want, but like an Abu Graib confession, it
means just about as much and proffers no information to you but what you
want to hear.

Act on it because it's all you know.

And get back to me on just how that went, will ya? And could you tell me
just how many taxpayer's dollars were spent because I'd just like to know.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

"WillStG" wrote in message
...
"Roger W. Norman"
Government is for idiots, run by idiots, and treats ALL people like

idiots.
That's my take on this whole thing. I refuse to be one of the idiots any
longer.


So you *admit* that you've been.... Err - never mind.
But doesn't this comment really belong in the "Moving To Canada"

thread?


g


Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Audioist / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits





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Blind Joni wrote:
Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.



Sounds like a majority of my Hip Hop clients.

John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative

I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches

George
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Blind Joni wrote:
Stay in the US, don't pay taxes, Sponge as much as you can off the
American system, drain everything that you can from them, That will be
a lot more effective.



Sounds like a majority of my Hip Hop clients.

John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative

I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches

George
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Blind Joni
 
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John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative
I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches


I am in the process of expanding my client base and tightening the rules to
weed out the riff raff..my real concern is for the future generations who
believe in the entitlement view of life...it is still my community.
Gospel was always the worst for me both live and in the studio..never a good
time.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Blind Joni
 
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John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative
I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches


I am in the process of expanding my client base and tightening the rules to
weed out the riff raff..my real concern is for the future generations who
believe in the entitlement view of life...it is still my community.
Gospel was always the worst for me both live and in the studio..never a good
time.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637


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George Gleason
 
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Blind Joni wrote:
John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative


I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches



I am in the process of expanding my client base and tightening the rules to
weed out the riff raff..my real concern is for the future generations who
believe in the entitlement view of life...it is still my community.
Gospel was always the worst for me both live and in the studio..never a good
time.



I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group
I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall

and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live
george
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George Gleason
 
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Blind Joni wrote:
John, every thing you post about your hip hop clients is negative


I think it is time you decided to move to clients you respect
The clients that cause me the most trouble are not the hip hop or even
the rap
crowd
it is evenly split between the hippy/jam bands and the contemporary
Christian churches



I am in the process of expanding my client base and tightening the rules to
weed out the riff raff..my real concern is for the future generations who
believe in the entitlement view of life...it is still my community.
Gospel was always the worst for me both live and in the studio..never a good
time.



I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group
I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall

and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live
george
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I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group


I was commenting on my 100+ HipHop clients only..YMMV. I have experiences with
them that I never have with any other "group" of clients..basically because
they insist on being a "group"..when it's convenient..of course...which
translates into a certain base line of consistency..behavior wise...some jsut
left and I am finding bags of "Duth" shavings all over the place..good
example..no other group of artists universally smoke blunts before and during a
session.



I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall


So you know ALL urban artists?..I personaly know hundreds in my area..pretty
consistent in most ways...and then I get artists from out of town and they are
fine. Not sure if it is a location thing or the fact that someone willing to
travel is more serious to begin with..probably the latter.

and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live


Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc..on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off." This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Blind Joni
 
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I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group


I was commenting on my 100+ HipHop clients only..YMMV. I have experiences with
them that I never have with any other "group" of clients..basically because
they insist on being a "group"..when it's convenient..of course...which
translates into a certain base line of consistency..behavior wise...some jsut
left and I am finding bags of "Duth" shavings all over the place..good
example..no other group of artists universally smoke blunts before and during a
session.



I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall


So you know ALL urban artists?..I personaly know hundreds in my area..pretty
consistent in most ways...and then I get artists from out of town and they are
fine. Not sure if it is a location thing or the fact that someone willing to
travel is more serious to begin with..probably the latter.

and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live


Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc..on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off." This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Blind Joni wrote:
I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group



I was commenting on my 100+ HipHop clients only..YMMV. I have experiences with
them that I never have with any other "group" of clients..basically because
they insist on being a "group"..when it's convenient..of course...which
translates into a certain base line of consistency..behavior wise...some jsut
left and I am finding bags of "Duth" shavings all over the place..good
example..no other group of artists universally smoke blunts before and during a
session.




I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall



So you know ALL urban artists?


I have no reason to think my observation are any less informed than yours
I do not live in a vacuum nor do i see what you constantly report
my experience is drawn off a world wide assortment of hip-hop and rap
artists, from the very top to kids that haven't learned to dj yet


...I personaly know hundreds in my area..pretty
consistent in most ways...and then I get artists from out of town and they are
fine. Not sure if it is a location thing or the fact that someone willing to
travel is more serious to begin with..probably the latter.


and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live



Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc.


..on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off."I believe this is a preconceived notion that you have because of some

perception issue you have
i felt the Hindu community was doing this to me until I took the time to
learn their culture and get to know them as persons rather than "clients"
Your perception is not serving your goals



This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



Who mentioned religious as the groups that lecture me
your paranoia is creeping into your daily life.

I find people to be people as long as you treat them with respect
though the ones that expect more and pay late or not at all are not the
urban artists
George


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Blind Joni wrote:
I don't find any more "sense of entitlement" in the Hip hop community
than I do in any other group



I was commenting on my 100+ HipHop clients only..YMMV. I have experiences with
them that I never have with any other "group" of clients..basically because
they insist on being a "group"..when it's convenient..of course...which
translates into a certain base line of consistency..behavior wise...some jsut
left and I am finding bags of "Duth" shavings all over the place..good
example..no other group of artists universally smoke blunts before and during a
session.




I find the urban artists more predjuiced than I am often comfortable
with though
I just don't feel your observation is true for the urban artists overall



So you know ALL urban artists?


I have no reason to think my observation are any less informed than yours
I do not live in a vacuum nor do i see what you constantly report
my experience is drawn off a world wide assortment of hip-hop and rap
artists, from the very top to kids that haven't learned to dj yet


...I personaly know hundreds in my area..pretty
consistent in most ways...and then I get artists from out of town and they are
fine. Not sure if it is a location thing or the fact that someone willing to
travel is more serious to begin with..probably the latter.


and some groups of people are much more judgmental and feel the need to
lecture me on how I should live



Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc.


..on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off."I believe this is a preconceived notion that you have because of some

perception issue you have
i felt the Hindu community was doing this to me until I took the time to
learn their culture and get to know them as persons rather than "clients"
Your perception is not serving your goals



This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



Who mentioned religious as the groups that lecture me
your paranoia is creeping into your daily life.

I find people to be people as long as you treat them with respect
though the ones that expect more and pay late or not at all are not the
urban artists
George
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Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would
run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc.


.on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off."I believe this is a preconceived notion that you have

because of some
perception issue you have
i felt the Hindu community was doing this to me until I took the time to
learn their culture and get to know them as persons rather than "clients"
Your perception is not serving your goals


I work hard on my perception and listening skills..thank you. I NEVER get
accused of ripping anyone off except by those who don't have any understanding
of the business..and I would think that "it takes one to know one" may be in
force..I won't go into stories about things that I see and hear.

This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me

on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



Who mentioned religious as the groups that lecture me
your paranoia is creeping into your daily life.


YOU said you had trouble with contemporary church groups..and then said certain
groups lecture you on how to live your life..from past conversations I made a
connection..sorry if I was in error.



I find people to be people as long as you treat them with respect
though the ones that expect more and pay late or not at all are not the
urban artists


I'm glad this is your experience but in my business over the past 8 years this
is true almost exclusively..checking my records..98% of the clients who have
stiffed me completely or still owe a balance more than 6 months old are Hip Hop
or Gospel groups.
At least it's a write off.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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Now I get this ALL THE TIME from the HipHop crews. "If I were you I would
run
my business like this..you should give us this and only charge us
this..etc..etc.


.on top of the constant insinuation that I am for some reason
"ripping them off."I believe this is a preconceived notion that you have

because of some
perception issue you have
i felt the Hindu community was doing this to me until I took the time to
learn their culture and get to know them as persons rather than "clients"
Your perception is not serving your goals


I work hard on my perception and listening skills..thank you. I NEVER get
accused of ripping anyone off except by those who don't have any understanding
of the business..and I would think that "it takes one to know one" may be in
force..I won't go into stories about things that I see and hear.

This I think though is more habit than anything..but no
less irritating regardless. I have never had a religious group lecture me

on
anything except on the outrageous amount of last minute **** they need.



Who mentioned religious as the groups that lecture me
your paranoia is creeping into your daily life.


YOU said you had trouble with contemporary church groups..and then said certain
groups lecture you on how to live your life..from past conversations I made a
connection..sorry if I was in error.



I find people to be people as long as you treat them with respect
though the ones that expect more and pay late or not at all are not the
urban artists


I'm glad this is your experience but in my business over the past 8 years this
is true almost exclusively..checking my records..98% of the clients who have
stiffed me completely or still owe a balance more than 6 months old are Hip Hop
or Gospel groups.
At least it's a write off.



John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637
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"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
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Back to the off-topic topic of this thread:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm


No he didn't:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov10.html


Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.


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"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
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Back to the off-topic topic of this thread:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm


No he didn't:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov10.html


Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.




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"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..

Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm


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"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..

Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm


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By the way, I don't agree with a whole lot that Salvador Astucia
has to say, but at least he says it.


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By the way, I don't agree with a whole lot that Salvador Astucia
has to say, but at least he says it.


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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:74Ymd.12954$pP5.5258@trnddc05...

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..

Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm


Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What governor
is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be unethical even
if "legal".




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Ricky W. Hunt
 
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:74Ymd.12954$pP5.5258@trnddc05...

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..

Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.


Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm


Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What governor
is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be unethical even
if "legal".


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Ricky W. Hunt wrote:
"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:74Ymd.12954$pP5.5258@trnddc05...

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..


Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.

Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm



Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What governor
is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be unethical even
if "legal".


I have to agree we need one ethical party in the usa
the repub have failed on that count so it is up to the dems to uphold
value and respect for our government, what a sad thought that is!
G
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Ricky W. Hunt wrote:
"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:74Ymd.12954$pP5.5258@trnddc05...

"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message..


Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.

Which is why he lost the election.



Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm



Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What governor
is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be unethical even
if "legal".


I have to agree we need one ethical party in the usa
the repub have failed on that count so it is up to the dems to uphold
value and respect for our government, what a sad thought that is!
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Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.

Which is why he lost the election.


Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm



Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What
governor is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be
unethical even if "legal".


I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the obvious
voter fraud would be a good place to start.


I have to agree we need one ethical party in the usa
the repub have failed on that count so it is up to the dems to uphold
value and respect for our government, what a sad thought that is!


The Dems are just the other side of the same coin. They are no better than
the Repubs in respect to values and respect for our government.


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Kerry won. Period. Now if only he could develop enough of a spine to
stand up & fight.

Which is why he lost the election.


Sorry about the bandwidth, but try this one on for size Ricky....


"Eleven states targeted to overturn 2004 Presidential election"

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/Election2004/overturn.htm



Are you serious? That's the craziest proposal I've heard yet. What
governor is going to tell his state "screw you majority!"? It would be
unethical even if "legal".


I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the obvious
voter fraud would be a good place to start.


I have to agree we need one ethical party in the usa
the repub have failed on that count so it is up to the dems to uphold
value and respect for our government, what a sad thought that is!


The Dems are just the other side of the same coin. They are no better than
the Repubs in respect to values and respect for our government.


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I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the
obvious voter fraud would be a good place to start.


Did you read the article I posted from the Washington Post? I haven't seen
any "obvious" fraud. The best they can come up with is the exit poll
discrepancy (which the Post debunked). If they're talking polls what about
the polls in the run up to the election that showed Bush with the lead in
all but one poll?


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I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the
obvious voter fraud would be a good place to start.


Did you read the article I posted from the Washington Post? I haven't seen
any "obvious" fraud. The best they can come up with is the exit poll
discrepancy (which the Post debunked). If they're talking polls what about
the polls in the run up to the election that showed Bush with the lead in
all but one poll?


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I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the
obvious voter fraud would be a good place to start.


Did you read the article I posted from the Washington Post? I haven't seen
any "obvious" fraud. The best they can come up with is the exit poll
discrepancy (which the Post debunked). If they're talking polls what about
the polls in the run up to the election that showed Bush with the lead in
all but one poll?



A study (done by a republican I have heard, but have been unable to confirm)
puts the inconsistencies between the results of touch screen and optically
scanned votes in Florida at 250 million to one. In other words the outcome
of the votes directly correlates to the method the votes were received. This
has absolutely nothing to do with exit polls and shows without doubt that
the election results in Florida need to be investigated.

Here is the article (PDF format): http://tinyurl.com/5dldz


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"Ricky W. Hunt" wrote in message
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"Hev" wrote in message
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I agree that this is not a way to justice. However investigating the
obvious voter fraud would be a good place to start.


Did you read the article I posted from the Washington Post? I haven't seen
any "obvious" fraud. The best they can come up with is the exit poll
discrepancy (which the Post debunked). If they're talking polls what about
the polls in the run up to the election that showed Bush with the lead in
all but one poll?



A study (done by a republican I have heard, but have been unable to confirm)
puts the inconsistencies between the results of touch screen and optically
scanned votes in Florida at 250 million to one. In other words the outcome
of the votes directly correlates to the method the votes were received. This
has absolutely nothing to do with exit polls and shows without doubt that
the election results in Florida need to be investigated.

Here is the article (PDF format): http://tinyurl.com/5dldz


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