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Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.

geoff

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On 2017-01-11, geoff wrote:
Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.

geoff


Probably a type of hot melt adhesive (hot glue)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-melt_adhesive
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On 11/01/2017 2:56 p.m., Rasta Robert wrote:
On 2017-01-11, geoff wrote:
Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.

geoff

Probably a type of hot melt adhesive (hot glue)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-melt_adhesive


Possibly, but remains slightly gloopy and squishable, and can be
re-joined by squeezing. A bit like the stuff they use to adhere credit
cards to paper with for postage.

geoff

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geoff wrote:
Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.

geoff



There are various makes of Room Temperature Vulcanizing silicone.
It's usually two part - matrix and catalyst. That's
different from the stuff that smells like acetic acid and takes
a long time.

The phrase "sometimes used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to
pcb-mounted sockets." worries me, though.

If it needs to NEVER EVER come off, EVER, then there's always
JB Weld.

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On 11/01/2017 8:02 PM, Les Cargill wrote:
geoff wrote:
Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.

geoff



There are various makes of Room Temperature Vulcanizing silicone.
It's usually two part - matrix and catalyst. That's
different from the stuff that smells like acetic acid and takes
a long time.

The phrase "sometimes used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to
pcb-mounted sockets." worries me, though.

If it needs to NEVER EVER come off, EVER, then there's always
JB Weld.



Needs to be relatively easily to remove. And this particular stuff
re-gloops together again with mild finger-tip working.

geoff


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On 1/11/2017 2:09 AM, geoff wrote:
Needs to be relatively easily to remove. And this particular stuff
re-gloops together again with mild finger-tip working.


I think I know which goop you're talking about, but I've never seen it
in the application I think you're describing. Is this an idea that you
have, or have you actually seen it in use - and if so, where and how? I
can't quite figure out what you're trying to do, other than to secure a
connector that wasn't designed for the service to which you're putting it.


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Les Cargill wrote:
geoff wrote:
Anybody know a brand, model, or generic type of glue that is sometimes
used to secure audio or RF cable.plugs to pcb-mounted sockets, such as
on Mipro portable PA speakers.

I do have some non-corrosive silicone, but the stuff I am looking for is
nearly clear (slightly yellow-brown) and thick and rubbery/sticky.
Presumably does not take long to get to that state from application,
unlike the silicone I have which takes upwards of 8 hours to cure.


There are various makes of Room Temperature Vulcanizing silicone.
It's usually two part - matrix and catalyst. That's
different from the stuff that smells like acetic acid and takes
a long time.


There is also an electronics grade which uses alcohol or boric acid instead
and does not cause corrosion or smell like vinegar but otherwise behaves like
bathtub caulking.

And, a lot of equipment now is assembled with hot melt glue, because it is
very, very fast.

But I think the stuff Geoff is talking about is a kind of urethane contact
cement. Techs here call it by a name I won't repeat in polite company.
I don't have a source for it, but 3M 08061 is usable and available cheaply
at your local auto parts store.

JB Weld


Filled epoxy, equivalent to Araldite in the UK.
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On 12/01/2017 3:36 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 1/11/2017 2:09 AM, geoff wrote:
Needs to be relatively easily to remove. And this particular stuff
re-gloops together again with mild finger-tip working.


I think I know which goop you're talking about, but I've never seen it
in the application I think you're describing. Is this an idea that you
have, or have you actually seen it in use - and if so, where and how? I
can't quite figure out what you're trying to do, other than to secure a
connector that wasn't designed for the service to which you're putting it.



Used in equipment to additionally reinforce tension-only held connector
types that are in devices potentially subject to vibration. Is designed
to be easily removable, and can be re-joined as previously described.

Not hard stuff like the cement often used to support component like
large electrolytic, not non-corrosive silicone, and not anti-tamper
lacquer.

I have most recently seen it in internal rf coaxial antenna
cables-to-connectors in a Mipro self-powered speaker. Looks like it
comes out of a tube as a globby lump, and firms up without any
significant sagging, and never goes fully hard.

geoff
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On 12/01/2017 8:46 a.m., geoff wrote:
On 12/01/2017 3:36 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 1/11/2017 2:09 AM, geoff wrote:
Needs to be relatively easily to remove. And this particular stuff
re-gloops together again with mild finger-tip working.


I think I know which goop you're talking about, but I've never seen it
in the application I think you're describing. Is this an idea that you
have, or have you actually seen it in use - and if so, where and how? I
can't quite figure out what you're trying to do, other than to secure a
connector that wasn't designed for the service to which you're
putting it.



Used in equipment to additionally reinforce tension-only held
connector types that are in devices potentially subject to vibration.
Is designed to be easily removable, and can be re-joined as previously
described.

Not hard stuff like the cement often used to support component like
large electrolytic, not non-corrosive silicone, and not anti-tamper
lacquer.

I have most recently seen it in internal rf coaxial antenna
cables-to-connectors in a Mipro self-powered speaker. Looks like it
comes out of a tube as a globby lump, and firms up without any
significant sagging, and never goes fully hard.

geoff



Another place I have seen same or similar stuff used is for extra
security on cable spade-terminals to speaker driver spade-lugs.

geoff

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