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Quality Stereo Receiver -- Who makes ??
I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- |
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Yamaha-Denon-Rotel-Harmon kardon-Marantz
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Marantz SR4320, Harmon Kardon HK-3480 Yam RX-777.
Rotel RX1052 URLhttp://www.rotel.com/products/specs/rx1052.htm Bg |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:06 -0400, "James"
wrote: I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Take a look at the Yamaha RX-777 or RX-596 models (should be the same model numbers in the US). http://www.yamaha.ca/av/stereocomp/RX777.jsp http://www.yamaha.ca/av/stereocomp/RX596.jsp |
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"Brad Clarke" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:30:06 -0400, "James" wrote: I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Take a look at the Yamaha RX-777 or RX-596 models (should be the same model numbers in the US). http://www.yamaha.ca/av/stereocomp/RX777.jsp http://www.yamaha.ca/av/stereocomp/RX596.jsp I found it interesting that Yamaha says nothing about what these receivers do, but whatever it is, it does it wonderfully! Norm Strong |
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If you want quality, look at Conrad Johnson, Macintosh, Crown Audio, QSC, or
the professional lines of Sony, and Technics, or Bryston. Names like NAD, Sherwood, Rotel, Denon, and etc, are all mass produced made in China crap. -- JANA _____ "James" wrote in message ... I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- |
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Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I will have to look at the other names mentioned. I appreciate all of the nice responses thus far. --James-- |
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"James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I will have to look at the other names mentioned. I appreciate all of the nice responses thus far. --James-- As a point of interest, NAD is British designed and Far Eastern built. Much of the better Rotel kit is also British tweaked. -- Woody harrogate2 at ntlworld dot com |
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JANA wrote:
If you want quality, look at Conrad Johnson, Macintosh, Crown Audio, QSC, or the professional lines of Sony, and Technics, or Bryston. Names like NAD, Sherwood, Rotel, Denon, and etc, are all mass produced made in China crap. "James" wrote in message ... I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- There is "better crap" and "worse crap". Within the OP's price range, I would say the Denon is still the best choice. The 685 is Korea-built, but the build quality looks the same as their Jap stuff. From a technical standpoint, the only weakness is a couple under-spec resistors in the power supply. Once replaced, there are no common problems with these, and the performance is on a par with some of the best. Mark Z. Mark Z. |
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On 4/23/2005 9:30 PM, James wrote:
I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- Check out Marantz. |
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On 4/25/2005 10:22 AM, Dan wrote:
On 4/23/2005 9:30 PM, James wrote: I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- Check out Marantz. http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/s...ory=rec_stereo |
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If you like NAD I would consider one of their integrated amps. There are
several models. You can add a cheaper conventional am/fm tuner, maybe even used, or a satellite radio tuner to provide radio capability. |
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Thank you, but I am looking for a stereo receiver. As stated in my OP, NAD
no longer makes a stereo-only receiver. It is all multichannel hype etc etc. Perhaps Rotel, but someone has noted that is built in China, which surprised me. --James-- -------------------- If you like NAD I would consider one of their integrated amps. There are several models. You can add a cheaper conventional am/fm tuner, maybe even used, or a satellite radio tuner to provide radio capability. |
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E Berlin wrote:
If you like NAD I would consider one of their integrated amps. There are several models. You can add a cheaper conventional am/fm tuner, maybe even used, or a satellite radio tuner to provide radio capability. Anymore, integrated amps are just receivers without a tuner section. Same circuit boards, with blanks spots where the tuner pack or board would go, and somewhat simpler audio switch IC's. Mark Z. |
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In rec.audio.tech James wrote:
Thank you, but I am looking for a stereo receiver. As stated in my OP, NAD no longer makes a stereo-only receiver. It is all multichannel hype etc etc. Perhaps Rotel, but someone has noted that is built in China, which surprised me. So what? China is perfectly capable of making high quality items. Just look at the build quality, rather than the 'manufactured in' tag, and see if it meets your standards. Personally, I'd trust Rotel far more than most brands. |
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Thanks Colin !! I do plan to check out Rotel.
--James-- |
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Mark D. Zacharias wrote:
JANA wrote: If you want quality, look at Conrad Johnson, Macintosh, Crown Audio, QSC, or the professional lines of Sony, and Technics, or Bryston. Names like NAD, Sherwood, Rotel, Denon, and etc, are all mass produced made in China crap. "James" wrote in message ... I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- There is "better crap" and "worse crap". Within the OP's price range, I would say the Denon is still the best choice. The 685 is Korea-built, but the build quality looks the same as their Jap stuff. From a technical standpoint, the only weakness is a couple under-spec resistors in the power supply. Once replaced, there are no common problems with these, and the performance is on a par with some of the best. Mark Z. Mark Z. I don't see much available new. I would look at used receiver of 70's, 80's if I were you. Maybe you should start looking at some older unit (receiver). Sometime you find near mint, (even new old stock) the likes of Kenwood, Onkyo, Pioneer Sansui, Yamaha etc. Don't forget that high power is usualy a trade-off. (Over 50 Watts RMS X 2). The First Watts is the most important of them all. Are you using a turntable ? A big power supply is usualy a good sign. Regards |
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Jean wrote:
Mark D. Zacharias wrote: JANA wrote: If you want quality, look at Conrad Johnson, Macintosh, Crown Audio, QSC, or the professional lines of Sony, and Technics, or Bryston. Names like NAD, Sherwood, Rotel, Denon, and etc, are all mass produced made in China crap. "James" wrote in message ... I am looking for a high-quality STEREO-ONLY receiver. I have no interest in multi-channel equipment. I had decided on the NAD, but they quit making it. Their only 2-channel receiver they now make includes a cd player, which I do not want in this purchase. Can anyone tell me of a "high quality" stereo receiver ?? I am looking in the $500-750 range, and would like 75-100 watts per channel. Thanks for any advice !! --james-- There is "better crap" and "worse crap". Within the OP's price range, I would say the Denon is still the best choice. The 685 is Korea-built, but the build quality looks the same as their Jap stuff. From a technical standpoint, the only weakness is a couple under-spec resistors in the power supply. Once replaced, there are no common problems with these, and the performance is on a par with some of the best. Mark Z. Mark Z. I don't see much available new. I would look at used receiver of 70's, 80's if I were you. Maybe you should start looking at some older unit (receiver). Sometime you find near mint, (even new old stock) the likes of Kenwood, Onkyo, Pioneer Sansui, Yamaha etc. Don't forget that high power is usualy a trade-off. (Over 50 Watts RMS X 2). The First Watts is the most important of them all. Are you using a turntable ? A big power supply is usualy a good sign. Regards Sound advice. The only thing I would add is that with older pieces, the controls and switches tend to be noisy and / or cut out. They should be cleaned even if no particular problems are noted. Mark Z. |
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"James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. The cost of the components in mass-produced products is small; and so it's perfectly practical for a manufacturer to set up shop somewhere where taxes, wages and profits means that products can be sold at a smaller multiple of the component price. Tim |
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Tim Martin wrote:
"James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. Yes, the machines may be the same...but what about "quality control". Do the plants in China have inspectors that are as good as Japan??? -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Charles and Francis Richmond It is moral cowardice to leave | | undone what one perceives right | | richmond at plano dot net to do. -- Confucius | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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Charles Richmond wrote:
Tim Martin wrote: "James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. Yes, the machines may be the same...but what about "quality control". Do the plants in China have inspectors that are as good as Japan??? Charles and Francis Richmond It is moral cowardice to leave | undone what one perceives right | richmond at plano dot net to do. -- Confucius | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ Mid-Fi stuff hasn't been produced in Japan for at least 15 years. I think we need to get over it. Only flagship stuff is made there anymore. I work on lots of mid-fi, that is Sony, Onkyo, Pioneer, Yamaha, Denon, Marantz. Quality is mostly pretty good, you'd be hard pressed to find any quality differences compared to Japanese manufactured stuff. However, there is a qualifier here as regards the original posts, which is: much of the stuff isn't Chinese as such, but made in Malaysia, Indonesia, Taiwan and Korea. Some Chinese stuff I've seen, such as the Marantz models made for Marantz by a firm called Anam, aren't so great, though there's some new higher-end stuff I haven't seen yet, such as the SR-8400, etc. The Chinese produced Denon stuff I've seen is fine. Yamaha has kept their quality at a high level, but they're not Chinese-built (was it Indonesia?). I would put Onkyo at a small notch below those two as to quality on their receivers, but I'd say stay away from their dvd players, which are Philips-sourced (and Chinese built). Sony has been dumbing down the engineering of their cheaper stuff the past three or four years as more HTIB stuff is sold. The receivers aren't too bad, but I wouldn't want to be perceived as arguing too strongly in their favor. Mark Z. |
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As far as value for money goes , you will go a long way to better Rotel.
"Tim Martin" wrote in message ... "James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. The cost of the components in mass-produced products is small; and so it's perfectly practical for a manufacturer to set up shop somewhere where taxes, wages and profits means that products can be sold at a smaller multiple of the component price. Tim |
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Dogs Breath wrote:
As far as value for money goes , you will go a long way to better Rotel. "Tim Martin" wrote in message ... "James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. The cost of the components in mass-produced products is small; and so it's perfectly practical for a manufacturer to set up shop somewhere where taxes, wages and profits means that products can be sold at a smaller multiple of the component price. Tim Not familiar with the Rotel, but lots of people like them. Mark Z. |
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:19:14 -0400, "James"
wrote: Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... Being made in China is no indication of sound quality. I just bought a 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer DV-575A 'universal' player which sounds identical to a $3,000 'high end' Meridian 588 dedicated CD player. Rotel have consistently produced some of the best-value gear around, top performance at very resonable prices. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 01:21:56 -0700, Charles Richmond
wrote: Tim Martin wrote: "James" wrote in message ... Really, you think NAD and Rotel are Chinese junk ?? Wow, I thought these were considered pretty good receivers..... I remember the same kind of comment being made about Japanese goods. Mass-produced products are made by machine; the machines don't know what country they are in - they work just as well in China as anywhere else. Yes, the machines may be the same...but what about "quality control". Do the plants in China have inspectors that are as good as Japan??? Anyone who thinks that quality is improved by inspection, is about forty years out of date. Quality assurance in volume manufacturing comes from the design, from the assembly equipment, and from the manufacturing processes. Inspection is irrelevant, all it can tell you is whether something's gone wrong with the process. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... Anyone who thinks that quality is improved by inspection, is about forty years out of date. Quality assurance in volume manufacturing comes from the design, from the assembly equipment, and from the manufacturing processes. Inspection is irrelevant, all it can tell you is whether something's gone wrong with the process. Yes, but one thing that has changed is what happens when something does go wrong with the process. Slap a different brand name on them seems to be the current remedy in many cases. MrT. |
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... Being made in China is no indication of sound quality. I just bought a 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer DV-575A 'universal' player which sounds identical to a $3,000 'high end' Meridian 588 dedicated CD player. This is a UK model. I wonder what the US equivalent is? John |
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Midlant wrote:
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... Being made in China is no indication of sound quality. I just bought a 'Chinky cheapy' Pioneer DV-575A 'universal' player which sounds identical to a $3,000 'high end' Meridian 588 dedicated CD player. This is a UK model. I wonder what the US equivalent is? John The DV-575A is also a U.S. model. Mark Z. |
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