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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago.
I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:46 -0800, Joanas McSwain wrote
(in article ): I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. The flattened section of the tubular aluminum cantilever has no strength in that direction. The slightest movement will break it. Believe me, we've all had it happen if we have had much experience with vinyl. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
On 12 Dec 2008 04:42:22 GMT, Sonnova wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:46 -0800, Joanas McSwain wrote (in article ): I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. The flattened section of the tubular aluminum cantilever has no strength in that direction. The slightest movement will break it. Believe me, we've all had it happen if we have had much experience with vinyl. Of course the engineer in me wants to insert a hard tube into it and "pound" it into shape. |
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On 12 Dec 2008 04:42:22 GMT, Sonnova wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:46 -0800, Joanas McSwain wrote (in article ): I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. The flattened section of the tubular aluminum cantilever has no strength in that direction. The slightest movement will break it. Believe me, we've all had it happen if we have had much experience with vinyl. Well it's not totally flat, just not round. IOW it's not mashed, just not round. If it were clamped, IOW the tube totally squashed I would agree but this is not nearly the case. I've played a number of discs with it and it seems fine to be honest. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
On Dec 11, 6:55 pm, Joanas McSwain wrote:
I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. This stylus is impossible to get Did you try: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merc...od e=STNS881S Also ebay and other forums? |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:12:48 -0800, Gary M. Stewart wrote
(in article ): On 12 Dec 2008 04:42:22 GMT, Sonnova wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:46 -0800, Joanas McSwain wrote (in article ): I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. The flattened section of the tubular aluminum cantilever has no strength in that direction. The slightest movement will break it. Believe me, we've all had it happen if we have had much experience with vinyl. Of course the engineer in me wants to insert a hard tube into it and "pound" it into shape. I'd like to see someone try to do that with a tube that is essentially the same thickness as a piece of aluminum foil. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:47:21 -0800, wrote
(in article ): On Dec 11, 6:55 pm, Joanas McSwain wrote: I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. This stylus is impossible to get Did you try: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merc...ode=LG&Product _Code=STNS881S Also ebay and other forums? Shibata stylus, yet! I'll bet that this replacement will sound much better than the original. I had an original 881S once and was not terribly impressed. I thought the soundstage was rather two dimensional. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
"Joanas McSwain" wrote in message
... I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. First, Im norwegian, pardon my english. Like Joanas, i have a sad cartridge story involving a Clearaudio Aurum and a Thorens TD126MkIII Last weekend I had some friends over, there were drinks... and I broke the rule I have about not playing LP's while partying. The next morning, well, around noon, I got into the living room and found my turntable still turning, with the cartridge well into the inner groove of Rush's Caress Of Steel..(yeah, I know..) There were foul language and gnashing of teeth. After two days i finally had the guts to test the cartridge, and it seems it has survived! There is no lack in detail in high or low frequencies. How is this possible? ___________ Digiman |
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"Digiman" wrote in message
... "Joanas McSwain" wrote in message ... I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. First, Im norwegian, pardon my english. Like Joanas, i have a sad cartridge story involving a Clearaudio Aurum and a Thorens TD126MkIII Last weekend I had some friends over, there were drinks... and I broke the rule I have about not playing LP's while partying. The next morning, well, around noon, I got into the living room and found my turntable still turning, with the cartridge well into the inner groove of Rush's Caress Of Steel..(yeah, I know..) There were foul language and gnashing of teeth. After two days i finally had the guts to test the cartridge, and it seems it has survived! There is no lack in detail in high or low frequencies. How is this possible? ___________ Digiman You only put an extra 12 hours or so on it, so why wouldn't it still work? What did you do to it that would damage it? S. -- http://audiopages.googlepages.com |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:56:36 -0800, Digiman wrote
(in article ): "Joanas McSwain" wrote in message ... I did a moronic thing a couple of months ago. I was cleaning the plinth of my Thorens TD316 TT with a cloth and yes the cloth caught the stylus on my 881S cartridge. It bent it backwards, toward the rear of the TT at maybe a 70 degree angle. Straight back. No side to side bending at all. I've carefully managed to bend it back to what appears to be the correct angle and it seems to play fine as far as I can tell. There is however a slight "flattening" of the cantilever where the bend was. IOW it is not tubular at one point but slightly squashed. Aside from my stupidity, any comments? This stylus is impossible to get and since I am now using a Shure V15VxMR Type V I am not too concerned. First, Im norwegian, pardon my english. Like Joanas, i have a sad cartridge story involving a Clearaudio Aurum and a Thorens TD126MkIII Last weekend I had some friends over, there were drinks... and I broke the rule I have about not playing LP's while partying. The next morning, well, around noon, I got into the living room and found my turntable still turning, with the cartridge well into the inner groove of Rush's Caress Of Steel..(yeah, I know..) There were foul language and gnashing of teeth. After two days i finally had the guts to test the cartridge, and it seems it has survived! There is no lack in detail in high or low frequencies. How is this possible? ___________ Digiman Because diamond is very hard, requiring thousands of hours to wear noticeably. 12 to 24 hours is NOTHING! Oh, and the mechanical parts of a cartridge don't really wear. They usually fail due to age-related problems such as rubber parts deteriorating with time. |
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Stanton 881S bent cantilever...
"Sonnova" wrote in message
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:56:36 -0800, Digiman wrote (in article ): Like Joanas, i have a sad cartridge story involving a Clearaudio Aurum and a Thorens TD126MkIII Last weekend I had some friends over, there were drinks... and I broke the rule I have about not playing LP's while partying. The next morning, well, around noon, I got into the living room and found my turntable still turning, with the cartridge well into the inner groove of Rush's Caress Of Steel..(yeah, I know..) There were foul language and gnashing of teeth. After two days i finally had the guts to test the cartridge, and it seems it has survived! There is no lack in detail in high or low frequencies. How is this possible? ___________ Digiman Because diamond is very hard, requiring thousands of hours to wear noticeably. 12 to 24 hours is NOTHING! Oh, and the mechanical parts of a cartridge don't really wear. They usually fail due to age-related problems such as rubber parts deteriorating with time. In the days of, I made the same mistake several times. No harm seemed to be done to the stylus, but the lead-out grooves of the LP involved seemed to be noisier. No biggie in terms of enjoying the music, but it was there. |
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