[Patrick Turner]

On Mar 16, 12:45*pm, Lord Valve wrote:
Patrick Turner wrote:
On Mar 14, 1:08 am, Lord Valve wrote:
Patrick Turner wrote:
Mr Valve, you speak utter twaddle about the "ongoing program of
genocide" against your race, the white race.

Got a URL to go with that claim, ****stick?

Because if you don't, I'm calling you a liar.
Deal with it.

Got guns?

Lord Valve
American - so far

Now why would I need a "URL to go with that claim".

Excuse me...

You put "ongoing program of genocide" in quotation
marks. That indicates that you are claiming I used
those words. *Since I didn't - and if I did, you could
search it in the Google NG archives and provide
the URL where the post is located - that makes
you a liar.

You're a mother-****ing America-hating liar.

OK, then consider my wrath be re-directed at who did crap on about
genocide of whites and all that silly stuff.

Its sometimes difficult to see exactly who said what when using Google
to access r.a.t. Using Google isn't like the nice access I used to
have to Usenet groups. Probably some ******* in America decided Usenet
users were getting too much of something for free, and guess what,
access to groups became far worse....



Own it.

Got guns?

As I said, I don't need guns. You don't need them either. You see,
unless you build a decent castle or build a 20 foot wall around your
mansion, or shanty, whatever, then any passing mother ****er could
just spray a few magazine fulls of lead from an AK47 through your
place while you are asleep, and that'd be it for you. Same could
happen to me. Drive by shootings have now become a more popular way
some Australians express their contrary opinion in western suburbs of
Sydney where the combination of drug trade and arsoles gives the
summed result of drive bys. So far not many have been killed and maybe
only a few shots used at a time, just frightener tactics. Quite tame
gun-play really. I reckon they got the habit after watching what
happens in the US. I love most of America, land of the Free - if youse
ain't been bought or sold. But there's lots of **** that happens in
America which has me thinkin' I'd never wanna visit the joint. I might
wanna visit if I thought it was a better place to be, despite its
shortcomings, but being here right now is so much better, IMHO.

Lord Valve
American - and **** YOU if you don't like it.-

Yeah sure, and the world seems intent on moving right along and
serving itself some long awaited wealth without relying on Uncle Sam
and his economic miracles. Its natural that the USA will fade down
slowly like Britain did after losing its empire and its influence.
Both of us will be dead by the time the status quo fully changes. But
your such friendly FU2 policy towards the parts of the world which
will never like America won't improve things for you, them, or
anyone.

In Oz, many here are worried America and puppet Israel might decide to
have a shin-dig in ME by taking out suspected Iranian nuclear
capability. Remember "weapons of mass destruction" which Iraq was
supposedly building to threaten the world with? None were ever found,
and thousands of un-necessary deaths occurred. Anyway, when a war with
Iran comes, just what line of utter bull**** will come from American
leaders? I'm just a very ordinary bloke, and If I seem to lie because
Google has made it difficult to see exactly who said what doesn't
really matter, any more than your irrational ideas about a precious
America. But to me, lying leaders of major countries deserve the
resistance they get when trying to impose the American Way.
I can understand the experienced US soldier who went about shooting 16
civilians in Ghan. I reckon he snapped, and fell into the idea that
the only way to win in Ghan was to just shoot everyone, Well, this was
the way of war in so much of history. Just kill everyone. Anyway,
killing 32 million Afghans seems inhumane, and logistics are
difficult, not to mention escalation to WW3, so I guess the US won't
be following one soldier's example. The Afghans can soon be left alone
to struggle in their dusty horrid country, and continue growing
poppies to make heroine to end up in American veins, and being ruled
again by Taliban or other assorted arsoles. See, the more ya think
about it all, the less it makes any sense at all. I'd like to think I
could feel proud about what my country's soldiers are doing in Ghan to
help the yanks, and I guess there ARE things which give me pride, such
as the re-construction and efforts to prevent Taliban trampling on
human rights, but in the long run our efforts may come to nought. So,
I can't say "Australian, and **** YOU if you don't like it." I don't
mind living here, but I don't give blind allegiance to anyone, and I
aknowledge my country's errors. Australia used to contribute heavily
at defending what was "our old country", ie, Mother England and The
Empire. 50,000 died in WW1. Gallipoli was a huge farce though. Turks
won. Then we kind of switched to an alliance with the USA, and of
course when Japan threatened our tiny little country which had
economic significance to the USA, the USA thought it wise to fight
them off. It was inevitable that a US - Oz bond was thus strongly
forged. Not everyone here liked what happened during WW2 and after it.
They saw the fire bombing of entire cities full of civilians and
Atomic bombing. Then the cold war, with ever more huge piles of arms
were produced in a silly cold war. Boy, what a huge waste of resources
all that was! In 1972, the Vietnam war made everyone think twice about
our Uncle Sam, not such a wonderful uncle. The Viet Cong won. Then the
US was a sore loser, and did all it could to hinder the communist
government in Vietnam for 20 years while never offering to clean up
the mess it left due to agent Orange and cluster bombs et all.
Conveniently, communist regimes woke up they could do business in the
capitalist manner, but use socialist communism to rule. The old rulers
and their past ideas about socialism and communism are fading. About
time. Seems like everyone, except towns like Detroit are better for it
- cheap Chinese underpants too!

Just like in America, In Oz there have always been many people with
vehemently opposing views, but we don't have to have a civil war about
it. It should be a world where a car factory or underpants factory
could be equally profitable anywhere it is set up, but human rights
abuse prevents it.

If youse can STFU about how marvellous America is, then you'd be more
welcome anywhere, even here, where of course, I'd buy you a beer.

Meanwhile, it does not seem like there is a clear answer to my
original silly off topic post asking if any Republicans like vacuum
tubes.

I wonder how Mike Mathews votes. I guess he'd vote Repub, but can't be
sure, if he did, then there's one good american republican heavily
into toobs, and he has Putin eating from his hand.

But Biden said to a crowd, "Don't give the keys to the White House to
those Republicans, they'll send you all broke." There was a huge roar
of approval.

Patrick Turner.