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Default Audiophiles' Delight: Vinyl LPs Still Sell

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Pretty easy to simulate, if you are handy with an
equalizer.


How to increase "warmth":


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Has anyone ever manufactured a device to do this
automatically, i.e. a "vivyl warmth"-ifier? * Given
that some people (claim to) really enjoy the sound
of
vinyl, this would seem to have a built-in market.


Why do you say, "claim to"?


Simple, because an individual's preference for vinyl
might have nothing to do with actual sound quality.


True with CDs too, of course.


Of course, but why would one feel compelled to make *such
an
off-topic
comment?


Just being clear.


There does seem to be a general preference for sound with
less
audible
noise
and distortion, which is one reason why CD's outsell LPs
by
more
than
100:
1.


Fewer and fewer know what acoustic music typically sounds
like.


* What an elitist statement to make.


Not at all.


Yeah, it was a bit snooty.


No, it's not, but I understand your need to try to be critical.


*Critical? *I thought you liked to be snooty?


That's because you're wrong. *Again.


You're snootier than you wish you were.
You just don't like to hear about it.


Oh I see.


If stats show that fewer teenagers drink grape soda than they did
10
years ago, is it "snooty" to say that fewer teenagers now know what
grape soda tastes like?


*If you obviously think grape soda is some sign of culture and
culinary appreciation,
yeah, and it's also wrong.
I drink far less soda than I once did, but I still know what they
taste like.
Your conclusion is not a given from the facts presented.


You changed the question. *I asked about teenagers. *Fewer teenagers
drink grape soda than they did before. *Think it through.


Doesn't mean they've never had a grape soda and can't remember what
it tastes like....


Scott, you do understand that people aren't teenagers forever, right?


George and sshhh may disagree.
But the point stands. Just because less grape soda overall is
consumed by teenagers in no way demonstrates that more teenagers
have never had a grape soda. The mean may have gone from dozens to a
dozen.
The doesn't mean the distribution has a tail approaching zero.


unless they're one of your students.


Why does anyone even bother to try with you?


Trying to convince me that wrong is right and
poor logic suffices for "critical thinking?


*The set of
people who are teenagers are less and less exposed to the taste of
grape
soda. *For my point about acoustic music, x number of people were
exposed to acoustic music in, say, 1970. *That number is now less, as
people who did hear it pass away, with fewer people replacing them.


I think it's absurd to assume that even with a reduction in frequency
of exposure
it has ever gotten to the point where someone has never heard any
acoustic music
by the time they're age 12.


Did I say anything resembling that?


Yes you did by claiming that fewer people know what acoustic
music sounds like.


I've never said that the number of people who have EVER heard acoustic
music is shrinking. But since the trend over the last 40 or so years
has been the fewer NEW people started attending acoustic concerts, and
the trend over the last 20 or so years is that fewer acoustic
instruments are sold and played, the reasonable assumption is that fewer
people than 40 years ago know how those instruments TYPICALLY sound.




Ask your community college students for some assistance with
your critical thinking.


I'm afraid that they're quite better at it than half of the people I've
met who graduated from UofI.


Foolish comments like that only prove you lack any
qualification for judgement.


I've known (in a broad sense, meaning including online) two UofI grads. *
You are one of them.


Online is a pathetic substitute for knowing.

ScottW