[Jenn[_3_]]

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On Aug 29, 11:50*pm, Jenn wrote:
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On Aug 29, 3:06*pm, Jenn wrote:
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On Aug 29, 1:57*pm, Jenn wrote:
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Or another name: *"It sounds more like typical acoustic
music to ______ (insert name)."

Mostly said by people who actually have no idea at all
what the original acoustic performance sounded like
because they weren't there.

As I wrote, "typical acoustic music".

Oh, so Jenn you think that all acoustic music sounds the same?

What makes you think that?

*There are ways that acoustic music NEVER sounds,

Exactly, acoustic music never has rumble, tics, pops, inner
groove
distortion, rolled off highs and lows, etc. Yet I have yet to
hear an
LP
that fails to have one or more of those failings. I've visited
the
homes
of
audiophiles with tens of thousands in audio gear, but yet when
they
play
vinyl, one or more of those failings is audible. I've been to
what
are
alleged to be some of the best high end audio shows around, and
even
in
carefully-setup listening rooms, the vinyl always has one or more
of
those
problems.

and there are plenty of recordings that sound that way.

Right, and among the "recordings that sound that way", I can
count on
vinyl
to stick its hand right up and say "I've got clearly audible
flaws".

We've been through this before.

Right Jenn, and the only logical conclusion is that there's
something
going
on with you that keeps you from hearing the well-known audible
flaws
of
vinyl.

Wrong Arny. *As I've said many times before, it's a matter of
"picking
your poison". *It's ALL artificial. *I can listen through a few
tics.
*I
can't listen through a recorded violin sound that resembles an
instrument made of plastic.

*You think digital does that to a recording of a violin?

I don't know, but I've never experienced that on LP, and I have on CD.

All recordings or just some?

All to a greater or lesser degree.

That would indicate there is a factor other than
digital infuencing your perception.

Why?





*Perhaps your CD player is broken. Even my Arcam
doesn't do that.

Nope, checked out fine 6 mo. ago. Besides, I'm speaking about all the
CD
players I've heard.

*All CD players make violins sound like plastic.

To a greater or lesser degree in certain ranges of the instrument. *I
hear a similar problem with female voice above about G on top of the
treble staff.

I suspect your room curve of your digital system(s) is not
representative
of live music to you. Flat FR is not typical of live music.
Some recordings have some compensation, others have none.
Your vinyl rig likely provides some hi-freq rolloff that is more to
your liking.
For less than $100 and your PC you can set yourself up to measure
it.

Except that I've heard what I hear on all digital systems in all the
rooms in which I've heard digital.


Lots of articles available on room curves, here's just one.
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...what-why-you-n
eed-how-do.html

Probably the flattest HF response speakers I've owned were the
Legacy's
and your comments remind me a bit of them.

ScottW

Interesting thoughts, thanks.