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Default receiver and system questions (newbie!)

On Jul 30, 2:21*pm, Boon wrote:

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Of course they are. And both are good enough to whet one's appetite
for something better. Both are relatively affordable. Are you saying
that because they are low-output MCs, they can't be good choices for a
non-audiophile who just wants to listen to his music?


Not necessarily of course. But he isn't going on a quest for
"something better". He wants something that plays his music acceptably
and unless provoked by audio snobs will leave well enough alone. As he
should.


He could always buy a set of
transformers if he really needed them later, but there is no reason to
go to the bother when good high output choices exist.


MC phono stages are getting cheaper and cheaper. He could buy one of
the Cambridge Audio phono stages for $99 and never have to worry about
cartridge choice again.


You mean one of these:

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summar...0P+phono+stage

Well enough, but having a standalone phono stage is one more box and
more cables and chances for noise and ground loops. If you are going
to buy a receiver and want phono buy one with a good phono stage.
Reducing cables to the minimum is of the essence. Especially if you
can't make a cable up yourself. That's why people bought those stupid
consoles in the 50s, 60s and 70s.


A system such as
he is proposing is not going to sound much different with any cart he
gets so long as he sticks to reasonably decent ones in the low price
range.


Bull****. Lots of inexpensive cartridges sound radically different
from one another, even on a relatively cheap system.


Your radically different and that of most regular music listeners is
very different. If A/Bed right on the spot with a turntable with two
arms, they might notice a difference but if both carts are any good in
the first place 90% of listeners are not going to have a strong
preference.

The high dollar ones tend to be colored on purpose and even if

not take a lot of moxie to get best results from.


Not true. Some of the Dynavectors measure remarkably flat for analog.
So do others.

And a cheap, poorly aligned cartridge can do as much damage to a
record as an expensive, poorly aligned catridge...so there goes your
dumb "moxie" argument.


Yes, so he also needs to have the correct turntable setup tools and
needs to learn to use them, which he can pay for by not buying the
unnecessarily expensive cart. Vinyl in 2010 is necessarily a DIY
experience mechanically if not electrically. Don't bull**** him.