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On Jan 25, 3:15*pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jan 24, 10:38*pm, Jenn wrote:





In article
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*ScottW wrote:
On Jan 24, 11:03*am, Jenn wrote:
In article
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*"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:


The "audio system" I see in most people's homes these days consists of
an iPod and a docking station.


One of our contributors recently said (on another forum) that his mp3
player and Sony MDR-EX85 earbuds "provides sound competetive with any
hi-end system the industry can offer." *That's an interesting statement,
I think.


*The cost of a soundstage between your ears and one recreated in a
room
has always been orders of magnitude different in cost.
Most the current technical challenges of high end sound in a listening
room become
moot with earbuds/headphones.


Unless, of course:
1. *You don't want to listen with headphones


* Then you'll have to pay lots more.

2. *You are concerned with other aspects of home audio than just
soundstage.


*You misinterpret. *Every audio reproduction (re)creates a soundstage..
The quality aspects of that soundstage in personal listening systems
typically exceed in almost any measure you can provide the quality of
sound measured from speakers.
FR (both flatness and range), distortion, dynamic range, peak SPL,
phase errors etc etc.



Power requirements for live SPL levels are a small fraction of those
required
for a room. Room interactions are eliminated.
Multi-driver crossovers....gone.
Full range low distortion drivers from subsonic to supersonic
frequencies, no problem.


Really? *You can get true bass with earbuds?


*I dont' know what "true" bass means to you. *My earbuds provide clear
solid output below my low hearing limit. *They won't shake my gut if
that's "true bass" (which more often than not is a room mode rather
than reproduction of a musical event) but they will reproduce clearly
and effortlessly the organ on Rutter's Requiem.
I've read some of those notes are sub 20 hz.







Only drawback is the discomfort of headphones/earbuds and the sound
field between the ears.
Every other objective measure of performance can be relatively cheaply
exceeded (unless you really want to feel the bass as well as hear it)
with
a personal listening system over the typical high end system.


Nothing really new here. The "high-end" doesn't offer performance
improvement to many youngsters who grow up accustomed to the drawbacks
of personal listening devices.
From their perspective a typical box speaker system can't give them
the sound quality they already have at a fraction of the cost.


I would agree with that, given what their experience is of a "typical
box speaker."


* Go buy the Sansa clip or any other non-defective player (some
earlier Sansa efforts were defective in design) and some decent
earbuds. You might be surprised how exceptionally good the sound
really is and you don't have to spend a lot to get it. *As I said...
$100 will do.

My only real point is that claiming that kids today aren't exposed to
hi-fidelity reproduction of music because they haven't been exposed to
"high-end" equipment
is BS. * Most are experiencing music reproduction of far higher
fidelity than you seem to be aware of and is perhaps higher fidelity
than what you have experienced.


LoL.